How to install Linux / UNIX *.tar.gz tarball files

by on June 18, 2007 · 241 comments· LAST UPDATED June 18, 2007

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Q. I’m new to Linux. Over few days I found lots software distributed as .tar.gz file. How do I install tar.gz files under Linux?

A. tar.gz also known as tarball, an archive format for electronic data and software. Most Linux tarball contains a source code for software. If you are new to Linux I recommend using apt-get, rpm and yum command to install all binary packages.

Tarballs are a group of files in one file. Tarball files have the extension .tar.gz, .tgz or .tar.bz2. Most open source software use tarballs to distribute programs/source codes.

# 1: Uncompress tarball

To uncompress them, execute the following command(s) depending on the extension:
$ tar zxf file.tar.gz
$ tar zxf file.tgz
$ tar jxf file.tar.bz2
$ tar jxf file.tbz2

Now change directory
$ ls
$ cd path-to-software/

# 2: Build and install software

Generally you need to type 3 commands as follows for building and compiling software:
# ./configure
# make
# make install

Where,

  • ./configure will configure the software to ensure your system has the necessary functionality and libraries to successfully compile the package
  • make will compile all the source files into executable binaries.
  • Finally, make install will install the binaries and any supporting files into the appropriate locations.

# 3: Read INSTALL / README file

Each tarball comes with installation and build instructions. Open INSTALL or README file for more information:
$ vi INSTALL

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1 nick June 25, 2007 at 9:28 am

I have also got the same problem not able to installed linux

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2 Deepak John March 15, 2013 at 5:59 am

hai frnds,
am newer to linux but am intersted to work with it most of the softwares i downloaded had this problem that it does’nt contain ./configure file so it gives”there is no directory ./configure”so i enterd the code ‘make’ i got the same replay..pls help me out…i was in the same directory that the files unziped

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3 Trent December 11, 2007 at 12:19 am

where do i put this code???????
i hate linux, and i dont want to….
all i see is people saying yeah the command/code to do this is so&so, but they never say where to put it!!!!
can someone email me, step by step process (with pictures, if you can) of how to install tar.gz files onto linux please…

Thank you

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4 Anonymous October 12, 2010 at 4:54 pm

Applications>Accessories>Terminal
Enter the commands in the Terminal.

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5 Thais January 5, 2013 at 7:40 pm

Don’t forget that once you open terminal (Under Applications>Accessories>Terminal), before entering those commands, you need to either navigate to the directory that the tar file is in and the use only the name of the tar file (ex: “tar zxf filename.tar”), or if not in it’s directory, you need to include the path of the file so Linux knows which file you are talking about
(ex: “tar zxf /home/Peter/Downloads/filename.tar”)

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6 johannes April 8, 2014 at 12:00 pm

type: tar zxf with a space at the end and drag the file into the window hit enter and your done.

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7 sabari November 12, 2010 at 5:41 am

u should write command in the terminal.linux is more secur so try use it k after u say i like that…………..is it

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8 jhon April 24, 2011 at 9:15 am

you are a looser so u can’t install tar.gz file so u can install windows and play game ok

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9 elissa GRACE May 5, 2011 at 6:12 pm

so u can weave and sew you clothes?
so u can make pasta from flour and eggs ?
so u can install breaks, wheels, and tires on your car?
so u can compose your own music?

..or have you just been exposed as a spaghetti eating loser who can’t get anywhere without the help of others, despite your hypocritical tune?

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10 Bjørndal May 5, 2011 at 11:07 pm

Oh, Snap!

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11 demiudg June 10, 2011 at 12:22 am

U wouldn’t believe me)))

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12 Seth Kaufmann August 8, 2011 at 4:42 pm

cars have brakes… Just saying’.

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13 Denna August 23, 2011 at 8:13 pm

You really missed the point. /epicfail

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14 g33k December 4, 2011 at 5:14 am

no, i can’t do any of those things, but i don’t go around bitching when i don’t understand somthing.

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15 Special K February 10, 2014 at 11:26 am

Learn to spell “brakes”!! Twat!!

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16 Tuerdi August 1, 2011 at 8:15 am

Can’t do one thing doesn’t mean “loser”. You are really cocky, I am quite interesting what you are doing for living? If you don’t want to help people just SHUT your mouth and GO away, don’t splash could water to others.

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17 The Linguist May 14, 2012 at 10:59 am

*cold water

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18 Seth Kaufmann August 8, 2011 at 4:43 pm

What a dick

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19 Evan McNeil February 15, 2012 at 4:50 am

Well said indeed.

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20 case January 18, 2012 at 11:47 pm

Anyone who doesn’t know the diff between lose and loose is a true loser. Anyone who cannot use decent grammar is an even bigger loser. Anyone who cannot even spell his/her own name is beyond loser and way into stupid.

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21 Rofo McTokey March 12, 2012 at 2:23 pm

Whole lot of losers in here, by your definition. By the way, you need to work on your use of punctuation.

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22 The Linguist May 14, 2012 at 11:00 am

I like this guy “case”. You are my new best friend. Thank you.

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23 chavfield January 8, 2013 at 10:18 pm

Your the LOSER, you need to go back to school and learn to spell. loser has 1 o not 2!

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24 Sorry.. February 14, 2013 at 9:07 pm

You’re*
Easy mistake :)

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25 deathKILLERforHIRE May 6, 2013 at 5:44 am

Sometimes distrobutions don’t use the command in exactly the same format as another distrobution.

You think you ar e so smart and intelligent jhon, but you can’t even grasp simple basics such as respect for others, nor did you offer an alternative, such as installing an archive package, perhaps running the command using sudo, or checking the archive is not corrupt.

Installed GNU/Linux and compiled your own kernel for the first time in your and it went to your head did it john? What is your problem?

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26 mb June 30, 2011 at 3:23 am

go to applications – accessories then terminal

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27 gilbert January 8, 2012 at 10:33 pm

Thank you for actually just answering the question (in 6 words). You rock.

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28 unnamed February 21, 2012 at 8:57 am

In the terminal

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29 Anonymous June 6, 2013 at 4:24 pm

This will help solve all your Linux headaches Trent.

Just open up a terminal and access root using su and enter your root password, then type in this command rm -f / but make sure you back up all of your data first, very important. Reinstall M$ Windows and Problem solved….

The other option is to RTFM !!!!!!

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30 szeth July 8, 2013 at 2:58 pm

The asshole is suggesting to format your entire root partition. Just telling for people who are new to command line and think this is some kind of easy solution. And you, anonymous person, are a dick.

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31 TheDick! July 11, 2013 at 5:55 am

Why thank you szeth, I do my best to get the message across that some people are better off sticking with Windows and spending some extra cash to make it work than to waste their time trying to configure or administer a system they never had a chance to become a master at in the first place.

It’s people like Trent is the reason why developers are dumbing down Linux instead of doing something more useful with their time like fixing issues and bugs with more older and less user friendly distros.

Ramzero is right, Linux shouldn’t be for M$ Window users who’d end up flooding forum sites with questions about the “any key” on their keyboard. It’s too much power for these simple-minded people and I’ll be damn if Linux starts sacrificing it’s elegance, stability, and power just to suit the needs of the computer illiterate.

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32 wtf? September 22, 2013 at 5:57 am

So youre saying that anyway, all former Windows users are unable to handle Linux?
Where else can a beginner get information except from forums?

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33 Chrysaliarus October 18, 2013 at 7:52 am

I have used Linux (what like twice? :p) and it is complicated and confusing for me, I would switch to it as my prefered os…if all my computer software would work for it. (I can’t get the driver for my wifi adapter) I think that’s the only gripe I have with it. It’s not that I an windows/mac user don’t care for linux or find it too difficult, it’s that there isn’t enough technological support for it yet. In two or three years…we’ll see, I might use it then.

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34 Ken August 21, 2014 at 6:13 am

I always seem to laugh when others down Linux, and say they are a Windows/Mac user. because MAC is basically Linux in its own slightly modified version. So that being said, why bother to say that a Mac is so much better than Linux when it is in fact Linux. Does everyone ever notice that Mac is just a well written Linux. Well that depends of course on how you look at things. The only difference is the MAC actually has a different file system. Otherwise much the same. It certainly explains why MAC cannot offer the same software that Windows can, due to it being more like Linux. Mac is at the heart of things, very much like Linux in how you install software as well. hfs file system is really the major difference.

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35 WhiteHatTrick March 13, 2014 at 4:04 pm

You stupid elitist bastards are so stuck in your own minds that you can’t see the real world. Someone who truly loves linux or anything else for that matter would want everybody to try and come to appreciate it as much as they do. There will always be someone to help out newbies, because we will always be newbies at something unless we stop trying new things! If you can pull your heads out of your ass long enough, maybe you’ll realize that even if it inconveniences power users (dunno how, because if you don’t like it just go back to your porn), it is worth it to show day one new kids the light and turn a few more away from the BS of MS. (and apple) Spark an interest, and people will dig into it. Some will ask questions, some will read man pages, others still may even learn to code! Just like everything else in life, it’s about benefitting humanity as a whole, if you are truly as intelligent as you think you are. Damn, you and your type are what’s wrong with this world in its entirety.

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36 Kris April 15, 2014 at 11:42 pm

Not to push u but I have an old powermac g5 and I use the terminal and x11 in it just about as much as i use my fedora and ubuntu. I do like my apple because they are hardy and well engineered as well as a good computer. Don’t knock it til you know them…

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37 zomg August 30, 2013 at 5:20 am

Do yu have mental problems?

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38 Waka Waka August 31, 2013 at 11:02 pm

I dunno do you zomg ?

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39 Kris April 15, 2014 at 11:45 pm

I love this question-in truth yes I do have mental problems, for my definition, but what is your reason for asking that is a good start to the need to seek truth and perhaps know the nature of the definition of “mental problems”, please join me on this quest one and all!!!!!! hahahaha….

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40 Ramzero July 2, 2013 at 7:58 am

linux isn’t windows, its not for noobs, linux gives you so much power many can’t handle the responsibility.

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41 szeth July 8, 2013 at 2:46 pm

Really. That’s like saying life isn’t for babies.
And how did you start with linux, tell me? Because I am most interested to hear how to learn something without being new at it, it would save me a lot of time and nerves.

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42 Waka Waka August 31, 2013 at 11:01 pm

It helps when you have an obsession with computers and an above average IQ…

I first started off with Fedora Red hat and quickly got used to it to the point of being comfortable with using the command line. But before then I started using the command line a little when I would get on my friends Linux box.

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43 Ken August 21, 2014 at 6:17 am

And so long before Windows 1.0 was even born, Bill Gates had MSDOS. So to say that you started somewhere is a matter of where you started.

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44 Kris April 15, 2014 at 11:38 pm

an alternative to a lot of the stress is sometimes easier done using a graphical user interface. Fedora comes with a software installer and an archiver. sometimes I use that to find the file (cmake for example) and it searches and if it is in a repository it will download and install the one for your system.
Additionally you may not have your profile or path showing the gcc complier path. I suggest read some of the fedora or ask ubuntu answers and copy and paste the code for the terminal into a gedit file. to open gedit in the terminal just type gedit. then if you see something on a website that is specific for your questions you can copy and paste it into your own special folder for the future, and save it on your desktop.
Last but not least if you do need to update a repository then your files will not be automatically updated, and that could be a security or software issue also.
Hope this helps you. Half price books also has a lot of books for linux and they are cheaper…
Kris

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45 Ben December 29, 2007 at 9:36 pm

What then if the “make” and then “make install”
commands do not work?

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46 nixCraft December 30, 2007 at 11:41 am

Ben,

You need to install all development packages and compliers.

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47 Joh August 27, 2008 at 11:00 am

on Solaris:
tar: z: unknown function modifier

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48 nixCraft August 27, 2008 at 11:07 am

Joh,

Use gnu tar or tar command without z option under Solaris UNIX:
tar xf file.tar
If it is tar.gz, enter:
gunzip < file.tar.gz |tar xvf -

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49 mark October 30, 2008 at 12:09 pm

hi guys, i was unable to unzip the files but the thing was i cannot install it i get this message.
=== TOOL-CHAIN CHECKS ===
checking for gcc… no
checking for cc… no
checking for cl.exe… no
configure: error: in `/boot/data/My Internet/rpm-5.1.6′:
configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
See `config.log’ for more details.

can anyone help me with this im new with linux, Im using the linpus lite ver 9.4 i tried installing RPM coz i cannot install new programs i dont know if linpus permits instalation of new programs hope you can help me with this thanks and i’ll appreciete it alot.

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50 linish February 16, 2011 at 12:40 pm

u have to install yum…..do it man.

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51 yogesh November 1, 2008 at 4:45 pm

how to use commands apt-get, rpm and yum & what do they mean

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52 Siôn February 16, 2011 at 7:01 pm

Those are package manager programs, the only one I’m familiar with is apt-get which is used by Debian and Ubuntu. The syntax for installing a program, for example the GIMP is like this:

apt-get install gimp

remember to run the command as root (administrator) using the sudo command!

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53 Fafali August 12, 2011 at 4:49 am

sudo apt-get install gimp

most times it requires a super do command

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54 Equalive December 8, 2008 at 7:28 pm

For GNOME (Ubuntu) users use Terminal
For KDE (Kubuntu) users use Konsole
these are what you use to apply commands such as apt-get

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55 Omega December 15, 2008 at 1:07 am

./configure
bash: ./configure: No such fire or directory

Ive seen a few people tell me (for different software) to use ./configure, but its not reconized.

(Im using Ubuntu…)

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56 Someone August 17, 2010 at 8:08 am

Exactly my problem.
Everyone says:
./configure
make
make install

My errors: ./configure – File or Directory not found.
make install – No rule to make ‘install’

Using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS

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57 Siôn August 18, 2010 at 7:12 pm

“make install – No rule to make ‘install’”
This happens because ./configure didn’t work properly.

As for “./configure – File or Directory not found.” that’s probably because of a mistake in Step #1 of these instrucions.

Were the files extracted successfully when you used the tar command or was there an error?
eg. “tar -xvzf” for files ending in .tar.gz or “tar -xvjf” for files ending in .tar.bz2

If all the files were extracted successfully, did you go into the folder that was extracted using the cd command beofre running ./configure?

Use the ls command to display the contents of the folder and look to see if there actually is a file called configure, otherwise ./configure won’t work because the file doesn’t exist. You can search for the file by typing: ls configure
If it’s there it will be displayed. If it isn’t it’s either because of a problem with one of the previous 2 steps or because there isn’t suppose to be one, in which case you should read the read me, for example by typing: cat README ,to see if this software needs different steps to install.

Remember commands and files are case sensitive and you can press Tab to auto-complete long or complicated filenames or commands so you don’t get them wrong and save time. Here’s an example installing the game wormux:

The file downloaded is wormux-0.9.2.1.tar.bz2 and we have opened a terminal which has a prompt with some text, ending with $.
It was downloaded to the Downloads folder in my home folder so we write:
cd ~/Downloads

It’s a bz2 file so use:
tar -xvjf wormux-0.9.2.1.tar.bz2

now we enter that folder using Tab to auto-complete
cd wormux-0.9.2.1

now we switch to root (like admin) user at which point the $ changes to # like:
sudo bash

now execute the usual commands from above:
./configure
make install
install

woohoo all done now exit the root terminal by typing exit or Ctrl+D and unless you want to delete the folder (-r is used for folders and cd .. goes up 1 level):
cd ..
rm -r wormux-0.9.2.1
you can exit the terminal aswell wtih exit / Ctrl+D

You might also want to check the checkinstall program instead of install and 2 last tips, if you want to copy and past the shortcuts are Ctrl+Shift+C and Ctrl+Shift+V for explicit copy because without the shift those execute other commands but note that whenever you select something in Linux it is implicitly copied and you can paste whatever you selected simply by middle clicking, easy right? ;)

Sorry for writing so much, I hope it was useful!!!

Reference: http://is.gd/enEHd (especially check the 4th post)

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58 Alex Lee September 11, 2010 at 3:36 pm

Or you forgot a pound at the start.
e.g.
# ./configure
not
./configure

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59 Siôn September 12, 2010 at 12:27 pm

You don’t write the hash symbol, the author just writes it to show that you are running as the root/admin user when you type those commands; in the part above that you don’t write the $ either!

Normally your prompt looks like this:
username@computername:workingdirectory$
for example mine might say:
sion@sion-desktop:~/Documents$
which means I’m logged in as sion at sion-desktop and I am working in the Documents folder in my home folder (~).

The dollar sign ($) is the end of the prompt, where you are supposed to write stuff. If you are running the terminal as the root user then there will be a hash(#) instead of a $ for your prompt and you can do ANYTHING so be very careful with this. To get a root terminal type:
sudo bash
and it will prompt you for your password (passwords are not echoed in UNIX/Linux) and you will be presented with a # prompt! ;-)

It is considered to be much safer to use sudo to run commands as root because you need to type it before each command to run it as root so it means you will be very aware that each command you’re typing could have very serious consequences.

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60 the Cat September 30, 2011 at 8:35 am

Siôn, the world needs more people like you, i am novice at linux but ur post cleared up a lot for me. and u do it without talking down to others like most do.

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61 christos December 16, 2008 at 11:45 pm

i have and problem with the linux of “linpus” installed in acer one…
when i setup back-track 3 not found drivers for audio-vga-camera-flash driver mmc,sd…
In linpus is already the drivers, but not support compiler…
I not know what to i make with this laptop, acer one :(
Windows XP is not support, by usb hard disk or in the internal sd card of laptop (8gb), correctly.

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62 Alan December 17, 2008 at 8:59 am

Hi,

I’m using Fedora 8 and I’ve just installed wine 1.1.10 as a .tar.bz2 file. I’ve figured out how to unzip it and put it in a folder, but of course, I have not been able to install it or anything. I don’t think I have the right compilers, because it gives me this:
$ cd wine-1.1.10
$ ./configure
checking build system type… i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking host system type… i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)… yes
checking for gcc… no
checking for cc… no
checking for cl.exe… no
configure: error: in `/home/hyperion/wine-1.1.10′:
configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
See `config.log’ for more details.
[hyperion@amethystium wine-1.1.10]$ make
make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.
$
So, those gcc, cc, and cl.exe files it’s looking for…are those something I need? Am I able to yum install those? What commands do I type in if I do that? I think I just have GNU and that will unzip stuff, but, of course, I can’t install the program with that I don’t think.

Alan

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63 nixCraft December 17, 2008 at 9:34 am

You need to install developers tools using gui or command line options. See following faq for more info:
http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-install-c-cpp-compiler-on-rhel/

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64 kixo January 24, 2009 at 4:32 pm

Hi,
Omega,
I can’t install tar packages,
Is there a solution to resolve the problem “./configure: No such file or directory” i am using Ubuntu too

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65 Joseph February 3, 2009 at 2:21 pm

I always hear people saying linux is better than windows xp, but the reallity is that it is not! It is only different and for ME windows is way better than linux because it simple works and do what I need it to do. In linux I have to configure too many things to get it to work and many programs you find in windows xp simple do not exist in linux and do not have any option to replace those programs. Installs are very difficult do do in linux. I am missing my xp. The only advantage in linux is the fact it is free, but gives in headaches. It is the true!

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66 Ex-windows user July 19, 2010 at 7:24 am

This is what happens when you accept free food – you just lost the skills of hunting.

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67 yup February 15, 2011 at 5:23 am

Word…i like that quote

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68 Siôn February 15, 2011 at 12:56 pm

Word…i like that quote

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69 zomg August 30, 2013 at 5:31 am

Linux belongs to the stone age. Your statement confirms that.

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70 wayne September 6, 2011 at 1:24 am

joseph I am sure that you have never installed windows but rather bought a boxed computer already set up for you as windows never JUST works. drivers have to be installed (video sound network) then you have very little software. so it is basically useless. download an iso of say linux mint, zorin, or ubuntu and if you have software to burn it to a dvd. restart your winders boot to dvd and now everything JUST works and if you look in software repo there is software to do anything you wish to do for FREE and it works and you don;t have to clik ten times to agree to it;s terms or are you sure are you really sure? use your winders.

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71 Ken August 21, 2014 at 6:40 am

Beg to differ as I have thousands of programs that wont run in windows Xp and will just lock it up. This equates to saying I have a Ford and you have a Chevy. But yet noth vehicles get you to the same place. Maybe not in the same way, but the results are the same. Really why are we blowing so much smoke here. Like all other things in life, What works on one platform, can be done on another platform. Maybe its easier for some. There is still a ton of DOS (eg terminal) based commands that can be used, just like there are GUI based Linux programs that can be used in place of typed into a terminal. I love Linux more because it is a blank canvas, that you can make your own. None of this major tweaking to get stuff to work. A lot depends on what your purpose of the computer is. Eventually there will be a Linux GUI application that will walk you thru the steps of installing a .tar.gz file. maybe there already is, which I am not quite aware of. However if one can memorize the steps, or writes it down, then at least one can say, you dont end up having to be click happy to install stuff and the installer does not generally install a bunch of useless junk in your system forcing you to have to spend hours removing all the unwanted junk. Again each O/S has its upsides and downsides.

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72 tina February 5, 2009 at 11:24 pm

how do i open the place to type in the command lines?????
very new to linux, using the acer one linpus linux and is all very confusing.

much help would be appreciated.
imeldapitt@btinernet.com

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73 Valentine Aaqil Mahmood February 7, 2009 at 8:55 pm

Thank you so much, this is it I was looking for. :)

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74 Marty February 18, 2009 at 8:28 pm

Hi,
Linux can be hard. There are many different “Distributions” each distribution is constructed to meet different peoples needs. You will have to search online and review “linux distribution” and see which one sound like it is for you.
The easiest way to install applications is to use the tools that come with the distribution you decided to install on your computer. The tools are “apt-get”, “rpm” and “yum” and more. They are included in the linux distribution to make installing easy.
I am using OpenSuse 11.1 Gnome and they have graphic tools for installing files. I usually google “OpenSuse 11.1″ and the name of the app I am looking for.
If you download “source” you are downloading programing code that needs to be turned into binary executiable code to run. This can be very difficult and requires that your linux has the developer packages installed. This may be too difficult for the casual Linux newbie.

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75 Nitin February 23, 2009 at 6:53 am

Hi ,
Linux users,

I have problem in connecting to mysql database.

Problem is as follows …..
Error in inserting the data
the error is:java.sql.SQLException: No suitable driver found for jdbc:mysql://localhost:3306/Database?user=root&password=sairam

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76 ramdhan March 1, 2009 at 8:45 am

i have problem with redhat linux installation
during installation “8254 timer not connected IO APIC ‘nopic’ error ”
massege appear what can i do while i have updated version of karnal 2.6.27-11genric
and new version of BIOS

please! give me best soluation….

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77 paulo March 13, 2009 at 4:49 am

Actually it would be a bit wiser to read first the readme.txt file…

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78 Kapil March 17, 2009 at 8:55 am

Hi I am new to linux-although not that new. I downloaded linx – only with CLI.
Now I want to install X. But whenever it try to make a package it says:
**make Nothing to be done for ‘all’ **

Please guide me to a book or website to understand the process of make…?

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79 Jannik March 18, 2009 at 11:47 am

Im also new to Linux and only of curiosity . While Windows is so simple , fast and logical then Linux headache of dimentions. When you got your system setup (which is easy nowadays) you would to install programs and its also simple IF……….. you use the package manager in your distribution . Then your are limited to what THEY think is good for you. So today itried to install a tar ball . All explained here , only i cannot see where all the files go to. If I cant find the path then I cant install ! Is there a software for Linux which opens the tar ball and can install it from there ? Excuse me for my english . I didnt bother to correct it .

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80 Bruce Wayne March 20, 2009 at 4:12 am

For all those who are new to linux and say they hate it switch back to mac or windows there are many people happy to help you on the web but if you are unhappy you should really switch back and if you don’t know how to find the command terminal you should really switch to windows with its supposedly “user friendly OS” and if you are on the fence read this http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm and join linuxforums.org here is some also key reading for new linux users from that oh so helpful forum site http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/57918-all-new-users-read-first.html hope that helps

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81 Bruce Wayne March 20, 2009 at 4:21 am

Oh and check out what marty said you either need to be willing to do research and read articles to learn this stuff or know it already(cause you spent way to much playing with source code and programming in high school like I did) or you just need a smooth runnin OS for email internet and maybe some simple word processing

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82 Jannik March 21, 2009 at 4:02 am

“For all those who are new to Linux and say they hate it switch back to mac or windows ”

Well……. you have to try it before you now whether it sucks or rocks !!!! and my conclusion is that Linux distributions are for people who only wants to read email , chat ,read the news and using the “office” pack every now and then . There are many Linux distributions that full fill that kind of need only when you have to install programs you are more or less in deb shit . Also I have experienced that there are no drivers for a lot of new hardware and if there happens to be , then its more than a double click to get it installed. Linux people seem to make a big issue out of that it runs on everything you can find in the dump yard instead of the latest new stuff . I had problems last year with two motherboards and Ubuntu . Maybe focus on what makes life easier using their computer would be better . I don’t call it freedom when you can only install software with build in package installers. Using apt-get , yum and others with command line is a nightmare typing exactly the program you want included version number is not that funny . There is very good a reason why people get very aggressive trying a Linux system and its called Windows and it ROCKS I must say after playing around with just about every distro within the last two weeks . The extra time i spend to understand just a fair bit of whats going on , I could have worked and made money to buy 20 original Windows Cd’s . It was interesting though . I lost some of my hair and my eyes are still red . I give it a try every year , when I have time but for now . Bye bye Linux world though its for “FREE”

Ps. Thanks for the links . It was in fact very qualified help I got and it was needed here in the jungle of blocks and amateur sites which often lead to more confusion.

Jannik

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83 Bruce Wayne March 21, 2009 at 5:31 am

Jannik,

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84 Bruce Wayne March 21, 2009 at 6:00 am

Jannik,

I don’t mean to sound like an asshole but the fact is that linux doesn’t want users like you. Linux is for those who want a smooth running operating system that have the knowledge to tear the OS down and rebuild it the way they want it obviously you do not possess this knowledge.
As for Windows “rocking” it just doesn’t I mean the viruses written for windows have much more potential to destroy your entire system than those written for Linux(in fact it would be a .000000001% chance that somebody could destroy one linux computer with one worm while the slammer worm destroyed thousands of windows computers in relatively no time and with relative ease. I don’t assume you will understand this but for all else out there it is good to know.
Windows is designed incorrectly for the functions it promises to its users of today. Windows is monolithic and entirely over interdependent thus one program is hacked and destroyed all programs fail where as linux one program is hit with a virus that one program is done and you reinstall. Many hacks are executed using web servers but since Linux makes the web server its own user someone who hacks a linux computer through a security hole in a web browser can only make the web browser fail and can’t gain any real control of the computer.
Windows also depends on RPC(remote procedure call) in unnecessary situations. RPC allows your computer to access other computers over the internet looking for answers and one small hole in a server security network and bam a worm will get thousands of comps because of the constant unneccesary use of RPC. Linux is designed to use RPC only as a last result otherwise its direct access which prevents other outside parties access to your comp. Seems logical right you don’t want other people accessing your files frequently thats not very secure hence the Linux design.
Linux also seperates all users and their dedicated files so if one user gets a virus(which is still unlikely and very uncommon) and all of that users files are corrupted the other users remain intact as if nothing had happened thus the computer is still intact and recovery is much easier.
Linux also has much better security programs available that make it much harder to crack. Plus the added bonus of being able to change your OS with a few minor programming lessons you make your OS completely unique. Now what is harder for a lock pick to unlock the lock that 90% of the world uses or the lock that only 1 person in a 6 billion person world uses. Its logic really. Windows is so popular why would Microsoft care to fix these issues when their product already sells so well. Thus the free product used by those who want a supreme OS is always being changed an upgraded in major ways and fixed. However: as I said at the beginning linux doesn’t want you Linux is not an OS that is sold to make large profits by large Corporations linux is something you CHOOSE to have and if you don’t want it and all you want to do is say that it sucks the Linux user community will not miss you and don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out. And as always it is OK to not like Linux use Windows use Mac use what suits your needs and what you want I prefer the security the wide range of choice I have and the ability to power use you may not and that is fine. Please read the links I posted above they are informative and will help newbies learn the ropes and help those considering linux decide if it is for them and which distro is for them.

Yours Truly,
The Caped Crusader(definitely in know way is this a comic book reference or nerdy remark lol)

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85 Bruce Wayne March 21, 2009 at 6:29 am

Oh and for all newbies to linux check linux.org out they have all kinds of lessons to get you going and that site will even turn you into a Linux wizzard and an engineer if you want to be I’ve seen it happen with my 76 year old grandmother she can do anything from terminal and she is a real Linux poweruser now because of that site’s courses

Linux.org

its wicked awesome

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86 pappynv March 22, 2009 at 6:55 pm

The thrill of learning… Yup yup, I can do things in windows by just pointing an clicking… I work hard for my cash so wonder which is really harder… The point an click in windows, or taking a little time to learn to do within linux… My ignorance is a blessing when I have the willingness to learn…

I find my time better spent learning than spent crying “I can’t do it”…

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87 A guy March 22, 2009 at 7:50 pm

I have the same problem, god bless double click on .exe files

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88 stringjunky March 26, 2009 at 6:07 am

Linux is only hard because people are not used to it……they forget how frustrating Windows was when they started….it is the beginning of a new journey. They need to go into it with an open mind and let go of the Windows methodology in order to progress in Linux…this appears to be the first and most important step The potential for doing creative things is much greater in Linux and the things people share with you in the Linux Community is because they enjoy doing just that…sharing. Nobody is trying to rip you off in Linux like many of the Windows based vendors.costantly vying for your attention and money by every known dirty cyber-trick in the book..

I too wish Linux had .exe files and those tarballs are a PITA….that’s why I’m here looking to find answers. This is the beginning of my learning curve to turn my computer into what ‘I’ want it to be and not somebody elses idea of what my computer should behave like…only in Linux is this possible due to its open-source nature.

If it helps anyone the best and least painful Linux distribution for people wishing to migrate from Windows to get up and running will most likely be Mint 6 in the Main Edtion because it contains all necessary codecs, most proprietory graphics drivers and all of the main applications you are likely to need. Get the Gnome version and avoid the KDE version for now because it is still a work in progress in Mint. I have Mint with Gnome on my Toshiba Laptop and everything just works….I came off Xp 2 weeks ago and the sense of peace and stability emanating from my computer now is nothing short of amazing after the constant irritations of Windows. If all you want is a stable, out-of the -box operating system to do normal everyday tasks this is your best chance in Linux….this is the Mint team’s stated aim….functionalility and stability ‘out of the box’.

Because Mint is not giving me any problems or demanding my attention every 5 minutes compelling me to waste time performing some pointless action to it not of my own making I have the mental space to create my own like trying to research and install those ‘lovely’ tarballs!

As long-winded as some of the techniques undoubtedly are in Linux (like installing tarballs) I am sure there is reason and method behind this apparent madness!

It has been interesting reading the different viewpoints because I agree with both sides..For me personally ..comfortably familiar though Wijndows is… it is commercially corrupted beyond redemption. I can’t stand my tv either for the same reason…that’s going as well!

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89 Jane March 30, 2009 at 4:57 pm

Hi Kixo,

after extracting the tar file, cd tcl8.5.6/unix, then type ./configure
after it configures successfully, type $ make
then lastly, type $ make install
i got a problem with security, so for the last step, I added as $ sudo make install
key in your password and it will complete installation.
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And to all the linux lovers, appreciate your contributions. I’m really happy to go step by step for each program to be installed successfully and slowly making my linux system more “usable” everyday. But I also agree, it’s alittle difficult and struggled along the way as I have no background in programming.

Regards,
Jane

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90 mentaloxide March 30, 2009 at 11:41 pm

Nope… didn’t work.
Yet again, another ‘oh so easy’ how to guide for tarballs that doesn’t work. I’ve had ubuntu 7.10 for about 9 months now, and I still can’t install these damned tarballs. Now don’t get me wrong, I really like Ubuntu, and i want to support it, but these tarballz and terminal crap is infuriating. All I want is flash player 10, which would be a few clicks on windows or mac. THATS WHAT PEOPLE WANT! EASE OF USE! Why am I transported back to the mid-eighties with ubuntu’s terminal, and when will the powers that be at linux actually recognize this is the major put off for new users. I tell all my friends how awesome linux is, virus free, stable and super fast. They see it and they want it, but ultimately I dissuade them because I know they couldn’t deal with the terminal crap. Ubuntu must learn to deal with humans, not the other way around, if it wants to claim ‘it’s for humans!

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91 nixCraft March 31, 2009 at 5:12 am

@mentaloxide,

May I know what are you trying to install (tarball name)?

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92 billjam June 16, 2011 at 12:56 pm

Ubuntu = crap, cannonical = big crap
Try something decent antix has MOST the stuff you NEED though fairly basic in appearance, just use it the way it is as it is partly debian based (non standard). The password is “demo”
Open suse: has access to a large range of programs in YAST (its own version of synaptic package manager which actually works properly) and there are several destop versions to choose from (though XFCE has problems at the time of writing this)Kde is bloated as but enlightenment version is quite responsive. Ran my win modem
Mint: just works but is based on Ubuntu. The mint debian xfce version is very attractive and clean in appearance but it too is has the debain/ubuntu curse of weirdness and seems to have problems with sound setings or pehaps im just stupid.
Puppy lucid: unusually actually supports quite a few win modems but it is totaly non standard in almost every way and quite buggy if you change some things. and very diffent to anything else ive ever tried. JWM desktop is good choice for a basic sytsem such as puppy. There apears tobe no root account or at least ive never had to set ANY password in all the time ive played with it
Fedora: fairly quick but buggy (it is the experimental version of red hat)
Dream linux XFCE: takes about 5 minuites to load on a 2.4 ghz am4800 machine with 2gb ram and to make an ethernet connection you need to get the setting of your ISP as it wont auto detect them like most other distributions will. It also managed to operate my crappy zoom win modem but lost this ability once ethernet had been establised and then removed. XFCE is normaly attractive/responsive but this time dreams turned into nightmares
Mepis lxde: default comes with all the compiz junk enabled. I just with they made it less buggy
Trisquel: made by ubuntus marxist division with proprietry stuff removed just for the sake of it
BLAG: Very reliable and responsive, It appears to be made by marxists though and when i ran it it apperared to be a gnome destop when it thought i had clicked an xfce download
Ubuntu: Apart from the revolting colour scheme,it slowed down and got more and more buggy the more you used it until it CRASHED GOOD AND PROPER REQUIRING THE POWER CABLE TO BE REMOVED Horrible menu layout with random stuff put in illogical places and an EXESSIVE helping of the usual Bookmarks/crap that seems to get added to firefox all the time
Kanotix hellfire: very responsive despite being kde and ran from live cd. installer didnt appear to work though but it warned me that this was still experimental at the time which is at least honest of them.
Parted magic: Every linux user should have this! Run live only with lots of usefull utilities for doing things like partioning and messing with computer generaly
I am now trying out pc linux os with enlightenment deskop which is very attractive and seems stable (the one good thing about debian based stuff)

As you can see All distributions have their problems. It is just a case of deciding which problem you want to deal with. Just avoid ubuntu

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93 Theo de Raadt April 19, 2009 at 12:20 pm

You should try OpenBSD, its got wicked screen savers.

-Theo

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94 stringjunky April 20, 2009 at 4:28 am

@Mentaloxide

I am using Mint 6 which uses Synaptic Package Manager..same as Ubuntu.
If you go into Synaptic and type ‘adobe’ (without apostrophes) in the Quick Search box …it should lead you to an entry in the program lists which says ‘flashplugin non-free……10.0.22.67ubuntu…etc…Adobe Flashplayer installer’…or similar:

1. Select it and check the box.
2.Select ‘Mark for Installation’ in the box that pops up.
3.Click the ‘Apply’ button at the top.

It works for me…hope it helps.

Its worth spending time sifting through Synaptic lists to find what you want because it avoids a complicated installation procedure like with tarballs.

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95 stringjunky April 20, 2009 at 4:42 am

I forgot to mention….make sure you select ‘ALL’ in the program categories list first in the left- hand box otherwise it won’t show up!

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96 mukund kumar May 1, 2009 at 9:19 am

i hav configured the .tar.gz file but when i give command “make” it says ‘NO TARGET SPECIFIED’
help me to get what i m xactly looking for

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97 Owen May 4, 2009 at 11:04 am

I am very happy with linux I use a cady and removable draws I have one 80 gig disk running mandrive another running suse and another running windows xp if there is something I can not do on linux I change draws simple as that, and I never go on the net with windows ever.
And dont any one beat them selve up I have never been able to install a tarball, and I have been using linux for about a year now The only fault I see with linux is to many diffrent distributions.

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98 Ahmad DH May 20, 2009 at 4:45 pm

I find Linux frustratingly, time-consuming and irritating. I still can’t install any “.tar.gz” or “.tar.bz2″ tarballs. I’ve gone for help online, offline, frontline, sideline, backline, you-name-it…I still can’t find someone who can give me a simple command line for how to extract and install an application from any tarball. Linux isn’t for novices, its for technophiles who have a lot of time to understand it…unlike Windows which is absolutely more straightforward to use (GUI or DOS level); a simple double click gets you installing, but in Linux, you have to go through all this *#@* jibberish. I’ll bet the command lines differ for the numerous “flavors” (distributions) of linux too…making life such a drag for new-comers.

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99 billjam June 16, 2011 at 11:33 am

You are correct about the command lines differing for different distributions.
Hard drives on some show as hd* while others show as sd* Sudo is a crappy ubuntu command and used by some of its derivatives su is the “proper comand. Antix uses something else, i think its called xsu or sux or similar. Apt-get isnt a standard command either and is not on every distribution. Having found all this out i decided not to bother with the command line for now.
A simpler way to get what you want out of your machine is to just download as many distributions as you can and play around and see what you think/like. I cannot recomend anything with with the gnome desktop or KDE especialy the older versions of KDE. Both of these desktops have lots of dependancies and all sorts of crap which unfortunately may be neccessary for some programs.
Just use the synaptic package manager (or program of similar name/description) for all your software needs.
DONT BUY any hardware or accessories that may need drivers installing unless you are 100% confident they are already supported or have the chance to try it first, EG WINmodems including hsf and hcf types, ATII graphics cards, or anything from texa5 instruments or MS1, huweii, connnexant, 1exmark and other such junk and BEWARE even if it says its linux compatible it may be just more lies as some hardware will only work once you have used their included halfbaked drivers which often wont even work with your system.
Z00m sold me a modem which they called hardware only to find that the driver were on a cd (a true hardware modem doesnt need drivers in linux)and that the drivers were not even for my system.
ASUS branded stuff is often (not always) a better bet under linux.
I hope that all these competing standards will die and i think that RPM should be the common standard in linux or perhaps some one should develop a self installing pakage system abit like install.exe in windoze (Difficult at the minute as even the directories are not even in the same places on some distributions) PRickhead commands like sudo should be confined to the history books and go back to using SU.
Meanwhile i have a real life to be getting on with instead sussing out my computer all day reading ameturish/distro specific instuctions on how not to do stuff. Linux is good but there is plenty of room for improvement

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100 stringjunky May 21, 2009 at 1:38 am

I’ve given up on tar files for a while….it seems to me you have to start right from the beginning with learning the terminal and its commands before you can install them..I don’t have the time or inclination at the moment to learn it.

Linux , at this stage in its evolution, is strictly for people who enjoy computers as an end in itself unless you are happy with the tools already installed by default or from the repositories. Too restrictive for me personally.

The lack of clear documentation specific to these files presented in a way that is understandable to me (and a lot of people here apparently} has severely dampened my enthusiasm for using Linux.

I am sure out there somewhere, someone has written the definitive, clear and simple HowTo for tarballs but I have not found it yet.

I write this from a Vista machine having installed umpteen programs without thinking and only go into Command Prompt if there is no GUI facility for something.

I have learnt much with my Linux machine that I have been able to transfer to Windows but in the end a computer, for me, is only an appliance to be used and Windows, despite its many flaws, gets the job done.

I have the choice of both systems at my disposal and at the moment Vista is kicking Linux into the dust for ease of use and application setup

What you gain in one area you lose in another.

The complexity of program installation, outside the repositories, in Linux is its biggest obstacle towards wider acceptance and usage.

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101 stringjunky May 21, 2009 at 2:14 am

I’ve just found this explanation of tarballs…says it all for me:

” Tarballs are the standard, and are common with file extensions such as “.tar.gz” or “.tar.bz2″. This is the generic, distribution-free method of distribution software packages in the Linux world. However, tarballs are not very user-friendly; for example, to get a tarball from the Internet running, one might have to issue the following commands from the command line in a shell,

# bunzip2 myapp.tar.bz2
# tar -xvpf myapp.tar
# cd myapp
# ./configure
# make
# make install

This is a tedious task, and involves getting the software to compile before being able to run. If know-how is lacking, this method will also cause a lot of grief, as sometimes during the “configure” stage, dependencies to get it running aren’t met.

This is the aim of package management formats like RPM and DEB – to ease the burden of dependency resolution, so that the end-user will just install the software with ease, and if dependencies are required, they get installed along. “

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102 hell_shadow_coderz June 7, 2009 at 7:24 pm

When i try 2 install driver for lan card it gives me following error msg
Makefile:24:*** Linux kernel source not found.Stop
Can any1 help me?
I m using linux 9.

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103 Jorx June 11, 2009 at 10:23 am

Being as there are quite a few people here spouting off negative opinions- I feel the need to respond.

Why did I choose Linux?

I chose Linux because
-it’s customizable
-it can do things Windows can’t-
-it has come a LONG way in the last few years and does practically everything I need it to
-the companies I want to work at use Linux

and last but not least
- I keep it on a USB flash drive, and boot it up on any computer!!!
That means all my applications, preferences, data, etc. goes with me from computer to computer. It’s revolutionary- and nobody knows about it. It’s called “persistence”.

Also- you really ought to think of the bigger picture of society and economy as a whole- do you want to enrich Microsoft or do you want enrich those who you choose?

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104 stringjunky June 11, 2009 at 8:05 pm

Jorx.

Your comments are interesting…and true…for you. Everybody elses comments are true…for them! If you are happy to use Linux within the relatively tight confines of the repositories it’s ok, but if you want to use to programs from elsewhere a lot of prior knowledge is required to install them that a lot of people here (including myself) are not prepared to learn or can’t because of the lack of decent, understandable, documentation on things like these tarballs that can be grasped by the majority, who at the end of the day, were brought up on Windows, with all it’s associated terminology and methods.

Changing over is too much effort for too little gain unless, quite rightly of course, you enjoy the challenge of learning something new. For most people though a computer is just an appliance to be used, like a vacuum cleaner, and most people would not want to read a 500 page manual on how to get the best out of it!..this is Linux at the moment…it isn’t automated enough for most people.

Your comment on the ‘ bigger picture’ is misinformed in my opinion…the ‘free’ distributions, like Linux, is riding on the back of the commercial ones because it is Windows and OSx that stimulates the development and production of new technologies…Intel. for example, is not going to invest BILLIONS of dollars making chips for a free distribution for no return…is it?

Linux cannot exist without Windows and OSX but they can exist without Linux!…this is the reality.

On your last comment I must take issue.

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105 ANAS July 11, 2009 at 11:12 am

LINUX IS FUN TO USE

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106 Baraboo July 29, 2009 at 9:30 pm

I’d like to add something for all the other frustrated Linux wannabes out there – like me. I’ve been trying to make Linux work, due to regularly bumping my head on the bad practices and business manners of Windows. I’ve been trying for 10 years. I finally got it to work in the last few months.
Now I’ve had good experience with three distros, each being able to detect my hardware correctly, including wifi. I’ve also been able to easily update my desired programs thru the gui interface in two of those. One thing I notice in the problem distros above is that they are earlier releases, eg. Ubuntu 6 or 7 or 8. Fedora 10 and 11 are out, Ubuntu 9 is out, and Vector Linux 6. In all three distros I was able to get Firefox, Flash, Java (Sun), wine for a couple of irreplaceable windows favs, Open Office, a firewall (enough to make my box as secure as my Win with firewall), anti-virus, and a couple of other programs I can’t live without that also have Linux packages as well as Win.
Linux is, in some ways, more like the Windows of the 90′s – a bit more wild-west WHEN you have a problem. And the command line is NOT friendly, and it WILL take you more than 20 hours to figure it out. Try one of the newest distros, like the three I’ve mentioned. If your hardware is old (>=5 yrs), and it doesn’t get detected, find a linux meetup and take your computer. Once you’ve fixed the initial problems, I’ve found the learning curve to be much smoother. The new distros have allowed me to get the computer up and running so that I can delve deeper when I want to – but I don’t HAVE to.
I remember it was only a few years ago that Windows (up thru 98) had the same sort of hardware issues. Win2k still had oodles of networking issues. WinXP had far fewer issues, but they still occur, and when they do, they can be a bitch. And Microsoft keeps making our stuff obsolete every two years.
Linux does require a learning curve, but the distros are finally maturing to the point where “they just work”. If you’re a fellow noob, and you don’t want linux to pwn you, I say avoid the command line, get a new distro up and running, and stick with that distro’s gui tools for a while. Oh, and btw, Vector is a superb distro, but it does require some command line. I’m a noob, and I’m getting it to work, but if it flakes, and ./configure gives me an error? I’ll be lost. So far I haven’t had that.
Best of luck, Baraboo

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107 steve September 9, 2010 at 9:06 am

MS Win only and only big advantage is ease of use ! And with that no mater the other lack of security stability reyability and so on will be leading use in the world of OSes making huge amount of earnigs, and they know it ! Linux will newer be a serius competition for win and people who wants more security simply go to mac ! Linux is still somekind stuck halfway in the command prompt and that in 21 century ! Who of common laic user wants to make a master degre, how to install binary app in linux the *hard way* ! Grow up linux comunity ! Its time for unified standarized install packages with ease of use ! Until then linux will be somekind of exosote in the world of os ! Some linux distribution have serius problems in install process to hd – look at internet, problems with bootloader and so on ! How can you even try something if you can not even install and then you get a tons of philosofing recepie how to hard fix it! Its all abaut the open source being stuck in command prompt ! MOTOROLA has made a huge mistake due to giving up to make a desktop and workstation CPUs ! Still remeber 68000 family CPU and killed ATARI RTOS and AMIGA havin win environment due to pc having DOS ! Where will be today ? Having a better and more secure win evironment and being more satisfied as with win ? The main reason people looking at other os is security lack in win and stupid ms policy, but when they realize Linux the hard way they go back and MS has woon again ! And small amount with enough money to spend go to MAC ! That is the truth of Linux and open source ! Many of you will disagree, but statistics speak for its self !

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108 Siôn September 9, 2010 at 5:29 pm

“MS Win only and only big advantage is ease of use !”

I hope you realise that the only reason it’s easy for you to use is because you have used it a lot. It’s not necessarily easy, it’s just what you’re used to. If you had grown up using Linux (I didn’t I grew up using Windows) then you would probably find it much easier to use, and be confused by Windows. The people who find Linux hardest to use are those who were really good at using Windows (if there is such a thing) before they switched. Either way you can’t deny the amazing growth in Linux and the probability that it will one day be more popular than non-free OSs. If you’re unwilling to change to a more positive attitude then that’s fine, you don’t need the open source community and it doesn’t need you either. :-)
–have a nice day!

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109 billjam June 17, 2011 at 12:10 pm

Whats all this about open source anyway? i mean as long you dont have to pay or register to use some thing and it works like opera for instance who gives a stuff about modifying/sabataging something that already works.

I believe that this obsession with open source is why winmodem drivers arnt included with most distributions meaning that only a few rich nations with adsl and wifi can use linux at all unless you can still get a proper expensive ACF modem. LINUX HAS SCORED AN OWN GOAL ON THIS ONE.

Alt Linux in my mind although partly in russian and buggy, it had the right idea on this one which was to display a licence agreement at the begining explaining that most of it was freeware but underneath it said that you are also installing a list of proprietry stuff which has different terms attached and explained, complete with a check box to agree before installing (abit like opera)

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110 billjam June 17, 2011 at 11:54 am

vector is rubbish just tried it last night, while it is stable it didnt detect anything correctly appart from the hard drive and when i went into vasm to re specify what the mouse keyboard graphics card and everything else was it still got it wrong even after reboot as if it had ignored the settings or something

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111 Dave Bernard August 19, 2009 at 5:13 pm

Please help..

What file extension should I download for Linux Linpus Lite?
YUM? tar.gz? rpm? deb?

Which one is for my Nokia Internet Tablet N800?

Many thanks.

Dave B.
DV.Bernard@Yahoo.co.ID

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112 Siôn February 16, 2011 at 7:04 pm

If your platform supports yum, rpm or deb (aptitude) then the recommended procedure is not to go look for a file with that extension but rather to use the relevant package manager. Eg. for aptitude (.deb) you would type:

aptitude install desiredprogramname

or even easier using the GUI Package Management tool, for .deb this is Synaptic Package Manager.

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113 Stuttie August 20, 2009 at 1:32 am

I like Linux a lot it is a good o/s but the problem is to many distributions and lack of standardization particularly with software installation, that´s why so many people go of it after one try, I have helped some people to get started but they give up when they find software installation to complex.and with so many brilliant people using Linux I am sure these problems could be sorted and when it is Linux would be the o/s of choice for millions.

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114 Stratman August 25, 2009 at 4:17 pm

I’ve tried several different distros of Linux now. Currently I am using Kubuntu on one HD and Windows XP on another HD. I like Linux but it definitely does not have the ease of use that Windows has. Windows has flaws and so does Linux. One thing I like about Windows is when I download a file from the Net, I just extract it to a folder, send a shortcut to my desktop and voila….it works. Not so with Linux. You have to fool with Tar balls, type all these commands and generally go through a whole bunch of crap that you shouldn’t have to go through just to install a program. When Linux reaches (if it ever does) the ease of use that windows has then maybe it will go somewhere. Now, however, I don’t think people want to fool with all this command line crap. They just want something that works and is easy to use and Linux isn’t there yet!

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115 touristguy87 April 1, 2012 at 3:42 am

true but if you only use windows, or the MacOS or whatever, then you become a slave to it.
if it works for you fine, if not you’re screwed. Unless you can find a way to fix it.

Using Ubuntu AND XP gives me two possible solution-vectors to any computing problem.

cheers

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116 Jose August 28, 2009 at 2:05 am

Ah, tarballs… I remember when I had problems installing those. And on slackware, no less, where the only way to install new programs is through tarballs! (Excepting installpkg, actually.) But yeah, I remember how I used to bitch and moan about not being able to do something as simple as install a text editor. It’s quite funny, actually.

First thing you guys should know about slackware linux(and any distro, really) is that there is no one size fits all for every application. The best thing to do is to read the README.txt file and the INSTALL file when looking at how to do stuff. The documentation is KING in linux. Remember that.

Another thing: when installing from tarballs, you should learn to have mastery over your $PATH variable. I mean it. Sometimes the simplest of things can be resolved by changing the path that make searches on. This is especially useful for people from windows, who are used to putting a file anywhere on the filesystem, and then expecting it to run or be opened just like that. In a console, the commands you use follow the $PATH variable, which shows them where to look. If your path variable doesn’t include the right directories, then you need to change it.

Now then: To all those people who want to go back to windows: Go. I don’t give a fuck whether you want linux to work or whether you are satisfied with linux. I am, and I don’t need drooling village idiots e-mailing me demanding I take time out of my busy schedule to answer their noob questions.(One person actually wanted detailed instructions e-mailed to her, complete with visuals, and in Microsoft word format!), The world doesn’t revolve around you, you know. And that’s the point with linux: It’s made for people that love to explore and figure things out. It’s computing for it’s own sake. So if all you want to do is surf-the web and use your e-mail. Then go ahead and stick with windows.

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117 touristguy87 April 1, 2012 at 3:39 am

“The best thing to do is to read the README.txt file and the INSTALL file when looking at how to do stuff. T”

No, the best thing to do is Google *exactly* what you’re looking for.
docs that are bundled with sw always assume a specific configuration.

Find someone who either is doing or has done just what you want to do. Use Google.

in this case I googled “how to install JDK 1.7 in Ubuntu”. piece of cake.

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118 depp August 28, 2009 at 2:12 pm

can anybody kindly explain? how exactly to install tar.gz files into Linux OS (any). we all know it is a zip compressed file!rar kinda file. BUT
BUT how to install & run it ! if we click it it just extracts into a folder showing all the contents. What is the executable file in Linux? Kindly tell us what are those commands where to type them in , how to execute . GOD this Linux is certainly a BIG headache & ridiculous !

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119 touristguy87 April 1, 2012 at 3:40 am

Google “how to install in ”

cheers

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120 Stuttie August 29, 2009 at 7:31 am

If you want to learn to use linux first find a user friendly version, I find mandriva a good first time O/S as it is very easy to install and tweek to your own prefered settings.
Then install the compatible package manager for your O/S of your choice,if you purchase your mandriva O/S it comes with all required proprietary drivers and the mandriva people will give good support via an Internet connection, then search the net you will find all the instructions on installing tar files.but be patent linux is not windows, but when you become capable with linux you will be punching the air I promise.
PS If newbie users ask for help don´t treat them as time wasters, some proficient linux users seem to subscribe to a philosophy of shoot the messenger to people that encounter problems with linux and ask for help, so I say to them stick with it and you will surly get there.

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121 depp August 29, 2009 at 12:12 pm

Thank you Hope so…will find the Mandriva

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122 Partager September 22, 2009 at 4:43 pm

Linux is not easy but is free!!! I love it and I’m learning it little by little thanks to the Linux community!

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123 Sub September 27, 2009 at 11:59 am

You type commands into a console window usually either eterm or eterm.. If you are having issues like not even knowing how to get back to a command line or being unsure what a command line is.. Go back to a handbook, a basic one.. You are running before you can wall tryna install and make tar balls.. It’s all extremely simple once you get to grips with it..

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124 ralf September 28, 2009 at 5:16 am

hi all
Please ! anybody just give us a simple step by step process of installing a small tar.biz, .gz or zipfiles in SUSE either through command line/terminal. coz its kind a DOS commands
guys try ur explanation & we’ll try our understanding of it.
Thank you all in advanced !

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125 rob November 11, 2009 at 1:28 am

Yes, could somebody please, please, properly tell us how to do this, writing for a reasonably intelligent, willing, able student, who, nonetheless does not ‘speak’ geek. Lets have pictures instead of words if people cannot use words properly. Please?? I an not being funny, its just that on so many forums people seem to deliberately obfuscate so as to show off to others in the Linux hierarchy. As a simple, intelligent, but non-geek relative newbie (have been using almost exclusively ubuntu for 8 month now, former macboy, and windows virgin!) I love linux, and free software. I just sometimes wish people wouldnt speak in code (and i am not meaning computer code). Surely, if you want people to adopt Linux (and I know many of you don’t, lest it may detract from a certain elitism complex), which is a laudable intention, you should take a little care to explain things more clearly.

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126 jaime November 23, 2009 at 2:45 am

rob,
you’r right but tell this to people that they think it easy to release from the monopolisms that microsoft have it is dificult. I tried always to find .deb file that are more easy to install it is just doble clik and install. But is this not the case for you just join in http://www.ubuntuforum.org and feel free to ask anything you don’t understant.

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127 tenny December 15, 2009 at 7:04 pm

hey i am trying to do the same, but i am getting this following error
“bash: ./configure: No such file or directory”
I am trying to install putty

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128 Siôn November 30, 2010 at 9:38 pm

You’re trying to install putty… in Linux?
I don’t mean to come across as rude but what’s the point? You can do everything you can do in putty and probably more, just using the plain old Linux terminal.
You can read about the ssh command by typing
man ssh
at the terminal.

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129 Lorax December 16, 2009 at 3:51 am

ROB!
What distro (distribution,make,version, whatever you call it) are you using?
I am using Debian, so Ubuntu (etc) and other distros will be similar:

To open a console aka terminal:
In MY top panel (that is, the strip across the top of the screen with buttons, menus, and a clock), I select
Applications –>Accessories –>Terminal (or Root Terminal)
(there will always be more than one way, sometimes 10 ways, to open a terminal)

That will open a lil screen with a prompt. The prompt is built with your username (aka usr) @ network name. You set up all that info when you originally installed your distro.
MY prompt looks like this:
nrc3@LORAXNETWORK:~$

When a tutorial or forum instructs you to “add this” or “type that”, it means:
open a terminal,
type each of these commands, one-by-one, hitting [Enter] after each one. Don’t try to add code aka commands without a prompt.

Be mindful of your directory (“folder” in winderz lingo), as a mistake in directory will cause headaches and lead nowhere. A directory is, oh, anything, like:
/home/user/Desktop
Remember, wherever you see “/user/”, regarding commands and directories, IT IMPLIES THAT YOU KNOW THAT YOUR USER NAME GOES THERE.
For example, the file path to MY Desktop is:
/home/nrc3/Desktop/
A directory aka folder on my Desktop, full of mp3′s, named Neal’s Music, looks like this:
/home/nrc3/Desktop/Neal’s Music/

In my terminal, my Desktop prompt looks like this:
nrc3@LORAXNETWORK:~/Desktop$

Let me explain it this way, when I open a terminal, my prompt is:
nrc3@LORAXNETWORK:~$
But when I need to make sure that I am in the proper directory, say I’m working on a tarball on my Desktop, I will add:
cd Desktop,
which causes the terminal to focus on the Desktop directory, and gives me the prompt:
nrc3@LORAXNETWORK:~/Desktop$
Got it?

If I then need to change directories, I use the command:
cd
to change directories. cd by itself will give you your basic user prompt back. If I need to go to the /home/ directory, I type:
cd /home
which puts me in that directory, and my prompt looks like this:
nrc3@LORAXNETWORK:/home$

Simple? Sure. Simple enough. It’s only different from what you are accustomed to. DO NOT give up. You need your community and we need you!
Also, please sign up at LinuxQuestions.org
Go ther and you WILL learn this!!!

Good Luck!

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130 touristguy87 April 1, 2012 at 3:37 am

in Ubuntu 11 you can open a terminal with cntl-alt-t

enjoy

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131 sourav mandal December 30, 2009 at 8:42 pm

root@sourav-laptop:/home/sourav/monodevelop-2.2# ./configure
checking for a BSD-compatible install… /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane… yes
checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p… /bin/mkdir -p
checking for gawk… no
checking for mawk… mawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)… yes
checking how to create a ustar tar archive… gnutar
checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles… no
checking for mono… /usr/bin/mono
checking for gmcs… no
configure: error: Can’t find “gmcs” in your PATH

please tell me how do i solve this problem

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132 Andrew February 19, 2010 at 6:43 pm

I have started using the computers from 9 years old on a sucky desktop computer that run Windows XP and now I am 15.

I was from the very start a power user and mingled with all things out of curiosity and tried to make the computer give the impression that it was MY computer. Then every 6 months my computer wanted a repair… :)

I slowly started on my own learning lots of stuff and never complained about anything.

2 years ago I bought a laptop which is in what I am typing on right now that came with Windows Vista. I was very enthusiastic at the start cause of all that eye candy and stuff like that but over those 2 years I got literally SICK of the slow-as-nails stupid and processor power-consuming thing that is called Windows Vista. Notice that my computer was full of software and I never bought a single program ( so one could say I was a life-long pirate as well :-))

My uncle, a computer teacher had some demo discs of Ubuntu 5.10(yea it’s really old) and I was seeing them 2 times a week until 2 weeks ago I had the nerve to try a new OS only because of how windows really sucked for me. At first I didn’t even know what Linux is..

But slowly I started researching and reading articles and other stuff and got my computer up and running Ubuntu 9.10

I have been using it for two weeks and I have to say I am VERY, VERY pleased with it because it is secure free and overall FAST. It gets the job done and I have been able to find replacement FREE open-source software for all my previously used applications. If in the worst occasion I cant find replacement software I use WINE. Simple. When it started all of my hardware was running out of the box so no problems here!

@All of those who complain about Linux being not user friendly or even the can’t do things with Linux and that Windows is better than Linux I have to say that you are LAZY corpses just sitting there in front of your screen not thinking.

Linux is for people than don’t mind a challenge, for people that can dirty their elbows a little and for people who love their computer.

If you are not one of these people please go back to your “I paid for this and I will demand your freaking technical assistance NOW” OS that is called Windows.

P.S. I was born and raised in Cyprus and in my 15 years I know more English than somebodies in here :P

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133 touristguy87 April 1, 2012 at 3:36 am

whatever

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134 rob February 19, 2010 at 11:45 pm

Andrew – love your post, its brilliant, and you are right in all that you say. I love linux, and yes, as my post about tarballs a few comments up demonstrates, I can sometimes find it challenging – but all the better for that!

I used to be a Mac fanboy, and I started using linux about a year ago, when I got an Acer Aspire One. I did’nt like the bundled distro, ‘Linpus Lite’, and I wanted Ubuntu. Not having a CD drive, I followed the instructions of the Ubuntu website on how to burn a bootable usb drive. I did this via the terminal on my aging Apple eMac, having downloaded the Ubuntu Netbook Remix ISO. I was amazed when I booted the stick on the netbook – amazed that I could operate a BIOS in the first place, and amazed that I had follwed the instructions to produce the OS I now beheld.

Since the day i installed UNR, I have not looked back; I am happily running Karmic Koala now, and the one thing I missed from the Mac, I now have – a Dock, via the ‘Docky’ theme in Gnome-Do. I have also experimented with Moblin, and Linux Mint – both of which are excellent distros- I have a portable mint system installed to a 4gb usb stick.

All in all, I am grateful to Mr Torvalds, Mr Shuttleworth, and the myriad of true geniuses, whose work has liberated us from the power of paid-for OSes. I was never beguiled by the works of Micro$h!t and all her detestable enormities, and I am grateful for my apple background, simply because it freed my mind from ever assuming ‘Microsoft=Computers’. Every Fanboy knows that Microsoft is not the first or last word, unlike so many poor, benighted souls, but Linux is a truly life transforming, paradigm shifting, epiphany of seismological and indeed pentecostal proportions.

Big up freedom. Computer users of the world, unite!, you have only your bugs to lose, and a whole world to win! Vote Linux, the Free person’s choice!!!

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135 Andrew February 20, 2010 at 5:13 pm

First of all thanks rob for supporting my opinions.

I too have been raised up thinking computer=M$ and the blame for that is on my country’s culture and the way the government machine works. Everybody when they say computer they mean windows, in school you are taught about M$ Office and VB6(not that I have anything against VB6 because I started programming this year and I have to say it’s great for beginning programmers). During the private lessons in the evening(everybody goes ,even the stupidest of all) you learn Word, Excel, Powerpoint, Access etc…(you get the point).

What I felt when I switched to Ubuntu was a total sense of FREEDOM and CREATIVITY and believe me the switch wasn’t at all that difficult like some people want you to think! My DVD drive was kinda broken so I got a utility that burned my bootable ISO Ubuntu image on my 4gb USB. So a restart ,F12 and 5 minutes later I was freed at last!

And to confirm all that I tried to boot into Vista today(yes I have kept the little thingy for me to dual-boot) and you know what I get for a reward?

A BSOD!
-.-
go figure…

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136 Andrew February 20, 2010 at 5:21 pm

BTW rob email me and I can help you with some of your ubuntu issues or even translate some articles from “geek speak” to “normal speak” because I kinda understand the “geek” language.

dragonblader44@gmail.com

Everybody else who emails me for not a good reason will get blocked. Sorry “PLZ PLZ HELP ME I’M A NOOB”-dudes

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137 Wilson March 8, 2010 at 11:58 am

Please can anybody help me out. I’m new to linux. I’m useing Ubuntu 9.10(Karmic)
I can install the tarball files. each time i try to install i get this.

configure: error: no math library found (libm)
wizzy@wizzy:~/Downloads/mp3blaster-3.2.3$ make
make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.

after useing the tar zxf *****.tar.gz
and the ./configure command.
there is always an error and it never finds any target. I cant play music and videos with ubuntu. Someone please help.

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138 Rameez April 24, 2010 at 1:35 pm

hi every1….
m new to Linux….i’ve recently installed Fedora 12
m trying to install tar file, but everytime it generates sm error…
i tried to install wine ..but it ended up with following errors:
as i typed “./configure”
“[Rameex@cpu wine-1.1.43]$ ./configure
checking build system type… i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking host system type… i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)… yes
checking for gcc… no
checking for cc… no
checking for cl.exe… no
configure: error: in `/home/Rameex/src/wine-1.1.43′:
configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH”

another problem i faced was when installing a display driver….1st of all it doesnt have any README file type thingy…..so m completelty blocked over here…
please help me

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139 sreejith May 3, 2010 at 6:29 am

root@sreejith-desktop:/home/sreejith/Desktop/Transformers/prozilla-2.0.4# ./configure
checking for a BSD-compatible install… /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane… yes
checking for gawk… gawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)… yes
checking for style of include used by make… GNU
checking for g++… g++
checking for C++ compiler default output file name… a.out
checking whether the C++ compiler works… yes
checking whether we are cross compiling… no
checking for suffix of executables…
checking for suffix of object files… o
checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler… yes
checking whether g++ accepts -g… yes
checking dependency style of g++… gcc3
checking for strerror in -lcposix… no
checking build system type… i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking host system type… i686-pc-linux-gnu
checking for gcc… gcc
checking whether we are using the GNU C compiler… yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g… yes
checking for gcc option to accept ANSI C… none needed
checking dependency style of gcc… gcc3
checking whether we are using the GNU C++ compiler… (cached) yes
checking whether g++ accepts -g… (cached) yes
checking dependency style of g++… (cached) gcc3
checking how to run the C preprocessor… gcc -E
checking for a BSD-compatible install… /usr/bin/install -c
checking for uname… uname
checking for a sed that does not truncate output… /bin/sed
checking for egrep… grep -E
checking for ld used by gcc… /usr/bin/ld
checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld… yes
checking for /usr/bin/ld option to reload object files… -r
checking for BSD-compatible nm… /usr/bin/nm -B
checking whether ln -s works… yes
checking how to recognise dependent libraries… pass_all
checking for ANSI C header files… no
checking for sys/types.h… yes
checking for sys/stat.h… yes
checking for stdlib.h… yes
checking for string.h… yes
checking for memory.h… yes
checking for strings.h… yes
checking for inttypes.h… yes
checking for stdint.h… yes
checking for unistd.h… yes
checking dlfcn.h usability… yes
checking dlfcn.h presence… no
configure: WARNING: dlfcn.h: accepted by the compiler, rejected by the preprocessor!
configure: WARNING: dlfcn.h: proceeding with the compiler’s result
checking for dlfcn.h… yes
checking how to run the C++ preprocessor… g++ -E
checking for g77… no
checking for f77… no
checking for xlf… no
checking for frt… no
checking for pgf77… no
checking for fort77… no
checking for fl32… no
checking for af77… no
checking for f90… no
checking for xlf90… no
checking for pgf90… no
checking for epcf90… no
checking for f95… f95
checking whether we are using the GNU Fortran 77 compiler… yes
checking whether f95 accepts -g… yes
checking the maximum length of command line arguments… 32768
checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output from gcc object… ok
checking for objdir… .libs
checking for ar… ar
checking for ranlib… ranlib
checking for strip… strip
checking for correct ltmain.sh version… yes
checking if gcc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions… no
checking for gcc option to produce PIC… -fPIC
checking if gcc PIC flag -fPIC works… yes
checking if gcc static flag -static works… yes
checking if gcc supports -c -o file.o… yes
checking whether the gcc linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries… yes
checking whether -lc should be explicitly linked in… no
checking dynamic linker characteristics… GNU/Linux ld.so
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs… immediate
checking whether stripping libraries is possible… yes
checking if libtool supports shared libraries… yes
checking whether to build shared libraries… yes
checking whether to build static libraries… yes
configure: creating libtool
appending configuration tag “CXX” to libtool
checking for ld used by g++… /usr/bin/ld
checking if the linker (/usr/bin/ld) is GNU ld… yes
checking whether the g++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries… yes
checking for g++ option to produce PIC… -fPIC
checking if g++ PIC flag -fPIC works… yes
checking if g++ static flag -static works… yes
checking if g++ supports -c -o file.o… yes
checking whether the g++ linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries… yes
checking dynamic linker characteristics… GNU/Linux ld.so
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs… immediate
appending configuration tag “F77″ to libtool
checking if libtool supports shared libraries… yes
checking whether to build shared libraries… yes
checking whether to build static libraries… yes
checking for f95 option to produce PIC… -fPIC
checking if f95 PIC flag -fPIC works… yes
checking if f95 static flag -static works… yes
checking if f95 supports -c -o file.o… yes
checking whether the f95 linker (/usr/bin/ld) supports shared libraries… yes
checking dynamic linker characteristics… GNU/Linux ld.so
checking how to hardcode library paths into programs… immediate
checking for ranlib… (cached) ranlib
checking for an ANSI C-conforming const… yes
checking for inline… inline
checking for off_t… yes
checking for size_t… yes
checking for working alloca.h… yes
checking for alloca… yes
checking for stdlib.h… (cached) yes
checking for unistd.h… (cached) yes
checking for getpagesize… yes
checking for working mmap… yes
checking whether we are using the GNU C Library 2.1 or newer… yes
checking argz.h usability… yes
checking argz.h presence… yes
checking for argz.h… yes
checking limits.h usability… yes
checking limits.h presence… yes
checking for limits.h… yes
checking locale.h usability… yes
checking locale.h presence… yes
checking for locale.h… yes
checking nl_types.h usability… yes
checking nl_types.h presence… yes
checking for nl_types.h… yes
checking malloc.h usability… yes
checking malloc.h presence… yes
checking for malloc.h… yes
checking stddef.h usability… yes
checking stddef.h presence… yes
checking for stddef.h… yes
checking for stdlib.h… (cached) yes
checking for string.h… (cached) yes
checking for unistd.h… (cached) yes
checking sys/param.h usability… yes
checking sys/param.h presence… yes
checking for sys/param.h… yes
checking for feof_unlocked… yes
checking for fgets_unlocked… yes
checking for getcwd… yes
checking for getegid… yes
checking for geteuid… yes
checking for getgid… yes
checking for getuid… yes
checking for mempcpy… yes
checking for munmap… yes
checking for putenv… yes
checking for setenv… yes
checking for setlocale… yes
checking for stpcpy… yes
checking for strchr… yes
checking for strcasecmp… yes
checking for strdup… yes
checking for strtoul… yes
checking for tsearch… yes
checking for __argz_count… yes
checking for __argz_stringify… yes
checking for __argz_next… yes
checking for iconv… yes
checking for iconv declaration…
extern size_t iconv (iconv_t cd, char * *inbuf, size_t *inbytesleft, char * *outbuf, size_t *outbytesleft);
checking for nl_langinfo and CODESET… yes
checking for LC_MESSAGES… yes
checking whether NLS is requested… yes
checking whether included gettext is requested… no
checking libintl.h usability… yes
checking libintl.h presence… yes
checking for libintl.h… yes
checking for GNU gettext in libc… yes
checking for dcgettext… yes
checking for msgfmt… /usr/bin/msgfmt
checking for gmsgfmt… /usr/bin/msgfmt
checking for xgettext… /usr/bin/xgettext
checking for bison… no
checking for catalogs to be installed… pt_BR nl ro it fr
checking for an ANSI C-conforming const… (cached) yes
checking whether time.h and sys/time.h may both be included… yes
checking whether struct tm is in sys/time.h or time.h… time.h
checking for ANSI C header files… (cached) no
checking ncurses.h usability… no
checking ncurses.h presence… no
checking for ncurses.h… no
checking curses.h usability… no
checking curses.h presence… no
checking for curses.h… no
checking for string.h… (cached) yes
checking sys/time.h usability… yes
checking sys/time.h presence… yes
checking for sys/time.h… yes
checking for sys/types.h… (cached) yes
checking for unistd.h… (cached) yes
checking for initscr in -lncurses… no
checking for initscr in -lcurses… no
configure: error: **A (n)curses library was not found. The program needs ncurses to run, Ncurses is freely available at : ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu **
root@sreejith-desktop:/home/sreejith/Desktop/Transformers/prozilla-2.0.4#

“make” shows some error

root@sreejith-desktop:/home/sreejith/Desktop/Transformers/prozilla-2.0.4# make
make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.
root@sreejith-desktop:/home/sreejith/Desktop/Transformers/prozilla-2.0.4#

please tell me what’s the real problem

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140 Kaine May 24, 2010 at 8:37 am

Does this work with ubuntu running off a usb coz i can’t friggen install crap and i don’t have internet on the computer either but i do have accsess to a computer with internet

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141 Siôn June 15, 2010 at 2:39 pm

Yes, it will work with ubuntu running off a usb; extract and install the software on your usb and everything will work fine. I just want to point out since Ubuntu is Debian based it’s usually easier to install programs using .deb files and only use .tar.gz as a last resort, when no .deb package is available. You can download the .deb’s on the computer that has internet, copy them to usb/cd and then install them with a simple double-click while running Ubuntu from your usb.

easy-peasy ;) linux

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142 Siôn June 15, 2010 at 2:43 pm

One last thing, if you do have access to a computer with internet then why not plug the Ubunu USB into it and just install programs the normal way, from the Ubuntu Software Centre or even the Synpatic Package Manager, using that computer’s internet connection (which is usually connected and set up automatically by Ubuntu, no messing about with connection settings)? It’s much easier than fiddling about with tarballs, use those as a last resort, i.e. when the software is not available in the repositories for some reason and you could not find a .deb (Debian package).

I hope this was helpful to you, good luck!

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143 hamed July 6, 2010 at 11:29 am

thanks for your functional tutorial

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144 Dominic August 14, 2010 at 12:14 pm

This was so helpful to me when installing CUPS. Thanks so much.

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145 Roman August 18, 2010 at 1:54 am

In order for you to extract tar.gz files, you must go into the terminal.
It will appear on the start menu as a Computer monitor with an almost black screen.
From there type in the commands instructed in this tutorial.

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146 vinodhkumar August 19, 2010 at 3:54 pm

hie….

i need to extract the files in the root directory ..i mean to say in a folder in that directory so how can i do it………….

and plz do tel the procedure for the installing and uninstalling the files through CLI …nt using the
sudo apt-get install XXXX

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147 Siôn August 20, 2010 at 11:17 pm

You can extract files using the tar command explained above at step # 1: Uncompress tarball, or zip if it’s a zip file. To extract them into a folder that is only accessible to the root user, like the folder called “root” you will need to become the root user, using the sudo command. Any command (in the terminal) that follows the sudo command will be executed as if it was run by the root user. So to extract the files to that folder you will type: sudo tar
If you don’t feel comfortable using the command line to work with files you can open a file browser as the root user by typing: sudo nautilus
(nautilus is the default file manager in Ubuntu, your OS might use a different one, just substitute the name). In GNOME you can press Alt+F2 to bring up an entry box where you can type a program name to be run. If you type gksu before the name of the program it will be run as root. So Alt+F2 and then gksu nautilus will open the nautilus file manager as the root user, then you can use that to double click the compressed file and extract the contents to the root folder or a folder in it.

As for the rest of your question, I don’t really understand what you’re trying to say.
apt (eg. apt-get install) is the recommended method to install software packages on systems that use apt (like Debian & Ubuntu). Other Linux systems like Slackware that has it’s own package manager or those that use RPM (Redhat Package Manager) have different methods, but if you don’t want to use apt and you don’t want to use the synaptic package manager (has a graphical interface) or the Ubuntu Software Centre (very simple and easy to use) if you are using Ubuntu then you can always just download the .deb files and double click them or the tar.gz files (source code) and install them using the method described on this page.

Did this answer your questions?

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148 vinodhkumar August 21, 2010 at 9:30 am

thanks a lot !!!!!!!!! i wil try with it…………….

i gt a file with extensions .tar.bz2
and it should be extraceted in the home directory …

i.e http://ftp.k-team.com/KorebotII/software/common/libkorebot-1.11-kb1.tar.bz2

and im in home directory and

vinodh@ubuntu:/home$ tar -xjf development_k2_v1.0.tar.bz2

but its showing error…for …and i need help abt this…..can u do help me

@ im newbie to linux :D

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149 Jonathan July 29, 2012 at 2:35 pm

same error. solved

tar.bz2 needs to use jxf instead of zxf

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150 vinodhkumar August 21, 2010 at 9:43 am

im sorry fr the above post…………………..the *.tar file is in desktop…and im using the home directory path …sorry fr that….

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151 Siôn September 11, 2010 at 6:49 pm

Hey, I’m sorry I didn’t reply before, you can move the file to the home directory using
mv Desktop/filename ~/
or you can navigate to the Desktop and operate on it there using
cd Desktop
I tried to install the program myself and installation is fairly straight forward following these steps except that you have to get the dependencies for it. When you run the configure script without them it will fail and and tell you that it needs a certain a file installed to continue. You must download that file and install it and try again. If it fails again you must again download and install that file and till all of the dependencies are satisfied (there shouldn’t be too many & you can install them exactly the same way as any other tar.gz file) and when all are satisfied and teh ./configure completes successfully you can run the make and make install.

Good luck! :)

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152 Chelsea August 23, 2010 at 7:56 am

I am only at primary school and I have been introduced to linux by my grand dad and I am getting better but I have not managed to install a tarball yet

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153 Kaine-Da-Nerd August 27, 2010 at 7:16 am

is there an easyer way coz i dont wanna do all this shit!

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154 Cycron September 10, 2010 at 11:09 pm

Yes, there is an easier way, there is a nautilus script for it too. you can google it… there should be one on gnome-look.org.
If you’re on KDE or a different DE I don’t know what you’d do.

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155 stuttie September 9, 2010 at 12:27 pm

An open appeal to all linux gurus please stop hatching up more linux distributions as I think this will eventuly cause linux to wither on the vine instead use your talent to improve and tweek a small number of the excellent versions that already have traction and we will all benifite.

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156 Siôn September 26, 2010 at 5:21 pm

There different distros for different people and for different purposes, that’s the beauty of it.

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157 stuttie October 8, 2010 at 3:53 am

Yes and they all do basicly the same thing and ad to linux being rejected by so many good people who would gain many benefits if they could get started with a more user friendly versions

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158 Siôn October 8, 2010 at 7:06 pm

Well cutlery all does basically the same thing; you eat with it. But you wouldn’t eat your breakfast cereal with a fork or cut your steak with a spoon would you? Same goes for Linux distros. You wouldn’t use Alpine Linux (meant for firewalls and routing) for an office/home computer, and you wouldn’t recommend Slackware to a novice computer user or anyone who’s not willing to fiddle and break stuff to learn.

The distribution that’s become vastly popular recently is Ubuntu, check it out, I find it quite easy to use, although if you’re very used to Windows’s interface you might want to try Kubuntu, they’re both pretty good for Linux beginners, I’d never used Linux before when my Windows 7 hard disk committed suicide, the first Linux distribution I tried was Ubuntu, at recommendation from a family member and I found it really easy to use on the surface but full of very powerful features underneath once I was ready to learn them! :)

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159 stuttie October 19, 2010 at 11:55 am

Yes
And ice cream is still ice cream no matter how many flavours it comes in.

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160 Siôn October 19, 2010 at 12:05 pm

You don’t use ice cream though, you eat it, so that’s not a very good analogy.

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161 stuttie December 30, 2012 at 12:43 pm

defending the indefensible

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162 FakoMasT3r September 24, 2010 at 7:43 pm

how do i change from zip file to tar.gz file

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163 Siôn October 8, 2010 at 7:09 pm

I’m sorry I could have sworn I replied to this already, guess I forget to click ‘send’, here’s what I wrote:

You would extract the contents of the zip and repack it into a tar.gz

I’ll do an example, if you had a file called myshizzle.zip and you wanted it to be myshizzle.tar.gz

First make a folder to store the contents of the zip file:

mkdir myshizzle

Then extract the contents of the zip into the folder:

unzip myshizzle.zip -d myshizzle

-d is used to specify a folder to extract a file to using unzip.
Then you enter the folder:

cd myshizzle

Then tar + gzip the files:

tar -czvf ../myshizzle.tar.gz *

The options used with tar are -c (create) -z (compress with gzip) -v (verbose; tell me what files are being added) and -f (file). This is followed by the desired name for the archive. The ../ means that it should be created in the parent directory. The * means that any file should be added.
then leave the folder:

cd ..

and remove it:

rm -r myshizzle

and now you have a file called myshizzle.tar.gz in the same folder as myshizzle.zip :)

This is work in the terminal, but all this can be done graphically if your distribution has a graphical user interface. eg. in GNOME:
•righ-click>Create Folder
•double-click zip file
•select everything in the file
•drag it onto the New Folder
•double-click the New Folder
•select everything in the folder
•right-click>compess…
•type a name
•select tar.gz from the drop down box
•click Create

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164 Anonymous October 6, 2010 at 4:45 am

use sudo before them. they are packages which install stuff

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165 Siôn October 8, 2010 at 11:38 pm

Ok, I’m not sure who you’re saying that to but if you’re saying it to the original poster, the # before the command instead of $ already implies root privelages, so sudo is not needed.

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166 Anonymous November 13, 2010 at 8:22 pm

I’m just using alien or INSTALL-files. (or .deb files)

sudo apt-get install alien

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167 Siôn November 15, 2010 at 1:23 pm

Alien is for installing files not from your native package management system, eg. rpm if you’re using debs or deb if you’re using rpm and so on

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168 lara November 28, 2010 at 6:28 pm

please,i need help to install iw.tar.bz2. i understood the above steps but i cant get started because i dont even know how to open a terminal that starts with $ when i open a terminal it always starts with #.i need simple instructions because im a beginner on linux and im lost

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169 Siôn November 29, 2010 at 3:44 pm

You can type it at a terminal that starts with #, it’s ok, it’s just not recommended that you use it unless you are performing administrative tasks. What distribution of Linux are you using then I can give you directions to the $ terminal for more general usage.

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170 lara November 30, 2010 at 11:40 am

well,here’s the story from the beginning. a friend gave me a cd with backtrack three on it and he didn’t even tell ma how to use so i downloaded a video from the net on how to use it to crack networks and when i followed the steps i got:(error….download and install iw.tar.bz2 )so i downloaded the file but i dont know how to install it and i googled to find a way but all the ways aren’t working,maybe im doing something wrong.you asked me to tell you which distribution of linux im working on.well i dont know and i dont know how to find out .i hope that u can help me .

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171 Siôn November 30, 2010 at 1:42 pm

When someone asks what Linux distro you have, the answer in your case is: Backtrack 3.

I’ll install Backtrack and see if it’s any different but you should be able to follow these steps on your terminal that ends with #:
*go to the directory (folder) of the file eg.:
cd Downloads
*extract the file, it is a tar archive compressed with bzip2 so use this:
tar -xvjf iw.tar.bz2
*enter the folder that was created when the files were extracted:
cd iw
*install it:
./configure
make
make install

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172 Rocket September 14, 2012 at 1:36 am

Knoppix 7:

# ./congifure
bash no such command

$ ./configure
no such command

# ./configure
bash no such command

# make
bash no such command

# make install
bash no such command

# ls
1 directory, 1 .tgz file, 1 tar.gz file 2 files extracted

Whats up with no such command? when I type help, sure enough there is no ./configure command.
Ideas?

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173 lara November 30, 2010 at 12:27 pm

i was told to type the command uname -a and it gave me the following
Linux bt 2.6.21.5 #4 SMP Thu Apr 10 04:23:56 GMT 2008 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) D ual CPU T2310 @ 1.46GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
i dont know if this is helpful

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174 lara November 30, 2010 at 7:43 pm

thnx a lot for your help
i tried this method,
bt ~ # cd Downloads
-bash: cd: Downloads: No such file or directory

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175 Siôn November 30, 2010 at 9:35 pm

well the Downloads folder was an example, I don’t know where the actual iw.tar.bz2 file is saved in, basically just go to that folder. Type “cd” (without quotes) followed by the name of the folder. If it isn’t in one or you’re already there then just skip that step. Does it make sense?

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176 lara December 1, 2010 at 12:31 pm

bt ~ # tar -xvjf iw.tar.bz2
COPYING
info.c
interface.c
iw.c
iw.h
Makefile
mpath.c
nl80211.h
station.c
util.c
bt ~ # cd iw
-bash: cd: iw: No such file or directory
bt ~ #

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177 lara December 1, 2010 at 5:38 pm

that’s what i got when i tried the last time

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178 Siôn December 1, 2010 at 10:48 pm

I don’t mean this in a bad way but ur a n00b, srsly!

What it’s saying is that the folder iw doesn’t exist. Maybe no such folder was created when the files were extracted.

Type:
ls
to list all the files in the current directory.

If you want you can share your email and I can help you more because by the looks of it, you really need a lot of help.

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179 lara December 2, 2010 at 1:07 pm

i didn’t claim that im an expert.i have been trying to work on linux for a week or two only and just for a couple of hours everyday.here’s my email (lara_mj111@hotmail.com)but if you are disturbed in anyway by my emails please just ignore them

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180 Siôn December 2, 2010 at 8:39 pm

sure, I only want to help

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181 James December 4, 2010 at 10:57 pm

I’ve had enough I’m afraid. The scorn that some people have on here, just because people ask reasonable questions regarding how one opens a file is sickening.

First of all I quite like Linux. It’s free, and there is a distro for ever pc. Apart from Mepis, DSL and PCLinux I haven’t had any grief. Oh and the pure grief of getting my wireless card to function (got there in the end). However opening .gz files and the like is pretty impossible for a relative newbie like me, and I don’t have a year to learn. I’m gonna keep trying, but I think a reinstall of my bootleg copy of XP is looking increasingly likely. I’m a busy guy and I don’t have ten minutes to devote to open each and every file that I save.
Shame really, if it wasn’t for the complications of tar files I wouldn’t even bother thinking about changing back.

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182 Siôn December 5, 2010 at 9:50 am

Hi, I’m not sure what you’re talking about. I can’t identify with the scorn or the complications you’re talking about. In my experience the Linux community has always been very nice and helpful towards me since I was a new user. As for the ‘complications’ have a read here http://blogs.computerworld.com/15402/you_dont_need_to_know_linux_to_use_linuxit's very true. I don’t see how you can struggle to open a tar file, these days all you have to do is… double click it and it’s open. Drag the files to your desktop to extract it’s contents and that’s it. What’s so complicated about that? If you’re used to Windows this should be no problem for you. It isn’t really necessary to use the command line, only useful.

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183 Vibhas December 14, 2010 at 4:10 pm

Can anyone tell me how to clear off those dependencies easily without using internet ?
Plz !! I luv linux but i am still a lot new to it.
Thanks !!

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184 Siôn December 15, 2010 at 1:44 pm

What do you mean by “clear off those dependencies”?

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185 Linux is Crap January 24, 2011 at 9:31 pm

Linux is crap. 2 hours to install an application. Windows, double click, job done.

No wonder no normal human being uses this operating system. Doing everything in command like it’s 1970 still! Come back Microsoft.

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186 Stuttie January 25, 2011 at 1:39 pm

There are advantages to linux that windows do not have like security and convertibility and if your patent eventually it gets much easier it is constantly being improved every year, it will only get better and easier over time,

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187 lara January 25, 2011 at 12:33 am

i have a question and i hope that someone can help me.i cracked a network of wep encryption and after i got the password i used it to connect my laptop to the network and it was connected but although the signal was very strong i kept getting no internet access.no matter howmany times i try or how close i get to it i got the same result: connected but no internet access .so if anyone can help me i’ll be thankful

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188 Owen February 4, 2011 at 11:34 pm

How to get bluetooth to work on mandriva linux

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189 Siôn February 10, 2011 at 2:41 pm

You might get better responses if you asked in a bluetooth related thread but I suggest you try installing bluez or blueman and reading the man pages or finding a HOWTO online for how to use them.

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190 Margaret February 14, 2011 at 1:29 am

I came across a word game for Linux that I wanted to try and I downloaded it. It was zipped – OK, I can handle that; there’s an “expand” option at the top of the window when I open the folder. But then what? It’s a “tar” file. After it was expanded I found a text file with installation instructions, but they made no sense to me. So I did a Google search for “how to install .tar file in linux” and found this page – with more incomprehensible instructions. I’ve been using Linux for about 2 months now, and I’m really beginning to think about going to back to Windows – where an installation process is simple. (“Simple” – does Linux even know what that word means?)

OK, I’m done ventilating. Moving on to the next likely candidate in the search results…

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191 Siôn February 14, 2011 at 7:12 am

Installing new programs in Linux is easier than in Windows when you do it the right way. Usually you think of something you want, ask Linux to install it and the package manager finds and installs it for you. Doesn’t that sound much easier than searching the web, downloading an .exe, double-clicking it, and following the “next, next, next, install” installation steps? I recommend you try installing your word game the easy way, what Linux Distribution do you use?

Since you’ve already downloaded the tarball (that’s what we call a compressed tar file) all you have to do is follow the instructions at the top of this page. You’ve already managed to uncompress/extract the contents so you can skip the first step. Now you should open a terminal and navigate to the folder you extracted the files to using the ‘cd’ command, eg:

cd Downloads/wordgame

now type “sudo -i” and enter your password when prompted (this lets you perform administrative tasks) and follow the steps at the top of this page under # 2: Build and install software

If it doesn’t work there will be a file called README which will tell you if the installation steps are different from normal. Good luck and if you have any questions feel free to ask!

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192 pam April 11, 2011 at 6:53 am

Rubbish nothing is easy with linux and some of the answers are worse than the problem

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193 owen March 29, 2011 at 10:23 am

Help can anyone please tell me which driver works with.
creative sound blaster 5.1 vx I have tried so many about to give up
Regards

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194 ragui April 4, 2011 at 9:10 am

Describe the unix commands you would use to install the package
package.tar.gz using the shell.

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195 David April 16, 2011 at 4:43 pm

I have tried many different linuxes over the years. Red Hat, Fedora, Knoppix, Open Suse, Puppy. I have spent many hours on each installing except Puppy which was easy and quick. Also many hours trying to install and run programs–tar.gz, yum, rpm, etc. with very little success. So many types of instructions. They make work for two or three steps and then fail. I like the idea of linux but hate this problem. Have had many books–Linux Bible, Fedora for Dummies, checked out library books. Looked at many sites on the internet. Here are just two examples of instructions neither of which worked:

To install the SLFonts onto your Linux computer, read and follow these steps:
(Note: You must have installed a TrueType font server on your Linux PC and know the path to the ttf font directory in order to use these fonts.)

1. Select the SLFont you need and download it into a directory on your Linux PC.
2. Change to the directory where you downloaded it and issue the command “tar -zxvf SLFonts.tar.gz”.
3. Next issue the command “mv *.ttf /path-to-ttf-fonts-dir/”, inserting the correct path to where your .ttf files reside.
4. Change to the directory where your fonts reside and issue the command “ttmkfdir > fonts.scale” (This will recreate the fonts.scale file).
5. Issue the command “mkfontdir” (This will recreate the fonts.dir file).
6. Restart your TrueType font server and X server (or you can issue the command “reboot” to simply reboot).

Compiling and Installing software from source
Some software is distributed in “Source form”. This means you download a file containing all the source code for the application you want to install, unpack it, and compile it on your system. Compiling is the process of turning the source code into an executable binary. The common myth and newbie assumption is that this is very hard todo, or it is only for programmers. Wrong. It is a fairly straight forward process, and you will find that a lot of software you install will need to be built from source.

Typically applications you must compile from source will come as a “.tar.gz”, “.tar.bz2″, or “.zip” file.

For organisational purposes, I like to save my source zip file to /usr/local/src/, but this is totally up to you. For the rest of this section we will assume you have downloaded your zip file to /usr/local/src/. If you do not have a /usr/local/src directory, you can create it with the following “mkdir” (make directory) command:

Code:

mkdir /usr/local/src/

So, we have our source package in /usr/local/src/.

Change to the /usr/local/src/ directory with the “cd” (change directory) command like so:

Code:

cd /usr/local/src/

Use the “ls” (list directory contents) command, to see the file is present:

Code:

ls

We now need to unzip the zipped file, this is done differently depending on the file extension.

for files ending in .tar.gz, use:
Code:

tar -zxvf

(replacing with the name of the file).

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196 Milo May 12, 2011 at 3:49 am

A friend suggested I try linux because it is more secure than windows I loaded mandriva and then tried to use the linux system, and also install which one would have to learn a computer sceience degree first to do with any success.
So I say linux may be free but if you had to pay for an operating system that is as hard and complex to use as linux you would ask for your money back next day.

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197 Max June 16, 2011 at 12:54 pm

Firefox doesn’t know how to open this address, because the protocol (apt) isn’t associated with any programme to load adobe flash player and this is all I get can anyone help me to work out how to associate apt this is my first time with Kubuntu

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198 last-zero June 24, 2011 at 9:20 am

Check this app, It installs the common packages of linux, its easy and very simply.
Its growing and starting being developed, but it’s very good!!!
supports:
.tar.gz
.tar.bz2
.tar
.tgz
.deb
.rpm
.bin
Its name is “EPI installer” (EasyPackageInstaller)
google “EPI installer” or follow this link to download:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/epiinstaller/files

Recommended, if you prefer clicking than writing, download it!, sure it solves your problems

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199 Meh July 6, 2011 at 10:32 am

Synaptic works wonders!

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200 carlo August 8, 2011 at 1:59 pm

If just one of the main linux distributions would compose a simple standard methoid of installing software the rest of the linux distributions would loose traction so fast and then linux would blume

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201 nithin August 13, 2011 at 10:05 am

i will be thank full if send me the information about instaling .bin and .sh files in linux

i am using fedora in my system. i am not able to install the softwares in it.
please send me the steps,how to install .bin and .sh files .
thank you

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202 Kipling September 20, 2011 at 10:22 am

Just a suggestion:
Step #3 must be step #2 and vice-versa. The content of a tarball may have another installation method than make (i.e. copy the content to a system folder), and in those cases the step #2 is useless. This is usually clearly expressed in the README or INSTALL file.

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203 Vicente October 3, 2011 at 7:33 am

This do not seem to work for me !! I’m running Kubuntu 10.10 and I have been tring to Install avg antivirus but nothing seems to work Either the installation with the tar.gz one or the other with the .deb and .rpm or .sh so if there is anyone willing to help with this please do !!!

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204 Ra. October 12, 2011 at 4:36 am

Ouch! That hurt. I concur with you, though.

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205 Sameer November 1, 2011 at 7:49 pm

How to install driver on linux?

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206 janardhan November 11, 2011 at 1:11 pm

yum install kernel-devel Kernel-headers
Loaded plugins: aliases, changelog, downloadonly, kabi, presto, protect-packages, refresh-packagekit, rhnplugin, security, tmprepo, verify, versionlock
Config Error: File contains no section headers.
file: file://///etc/yum.repos.d/rhel-beta.repo, line: 1
‘me=Red Hat Enterprise Linux 6Server Beta – i386\n’

But i have already installed plugins, what have to do

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207 Tharindu November 15, 2011 at 9:49 am

When I try to install “name.tar.gz” file, it appears as follows;

harshitha@ubuntu:~$ tar zxf icta_sinhala_tamil_installer_ubuntu_0.2.tar.gz
tar (child): icta_sinhala_tamil_installer_ubuntu_0.2.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
tar: Child returned status 2
tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
harshitha@ubuntu:~$

So, I couldn’t install that software. I’m using Ubuntu 10.10 version.
I’m new to Ubuntu.
Please help me…!!
Thank you…

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208 MIke November 24, 2011 at 7:29 pm

Ok. Uncompress. Great. Easy.

Next instruction “cd path-to-software”

And I know that, how? I uncompress the file, no errors. Nothing in that directory — where did it go? eh?

So what’s the second step, really?

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209 satish December 29, 2011 at 7:22 am

I’m new to Linux. How do I install tar.gz2 compressed files under RHEL5?

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210 Borellianio January 15, 2012 at 3:48 am

I have been using Linux for the past six years. Of the seven billion people on this earth, how many do you think give a shit?

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211 Praveenraj March 2, 2012 at 1:06 am

root@azeem-Latitude-D630:/home/azeem# tar zxf file.tar.gz
tar (child): file.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
tar: Child returned status 2
tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now

am getting these comments while installing so please help me out to install tar on my ubuntu…

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212 iwannalearnlinux March 12, 2012 at 6:28 am

Please am asking for help because i do not know how to am very new to linux heard about it but I’ve being confused every time i think about the word linux am not sure why but it just happen now am worried wondering if something might be wrong with me mentally because every body else seems to understand the questions i wanna ask are
how did you begin your first Linux experience how did you learn to attach files
What are the important things you had to figure out before going forward with linux
how did you learn the different commands like this one.. cd/linux/. am not sure what are the commands but i hope you understand what am talking about example, yum.
how did you install and tar.gz file after installing Linux on then through ssh how did you make install, i downloaded a folder that i wanna install from a company but it is in this format tar.gz how do i get it to work on a linux install like archlinux or freedsb/ ubuntu. please assist with all the help you can if you don’t understand my writing please email me and i’ll be here to explain thank you for reading and i hope that i will be welcomed with some answers best regards respect to everyone. IWANNALEARNLINUX

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213 Steve April 9, 2012 at 1:05 pm

My advice is leave it be ! Troubles with Linux will began immediately after even first step is to make ! Linux tendency is to stopping user on every step and then unfortunately one is stuck for good ! There is no easy Linux and sooner or later one is overwhelmed with tasks that can not solve or are not easy to solve ! If you want to learn Linux go and study it on University with people that know what they are doing ! Internet is full of crap and Linux Community what so ever is very arrogant — look we can and you don’t – showing off – thinking maybe someone will employ me for being paid to showing off ! With win one is far more better off despite crappy system ! It’s ease of use that has make Win successful and MS know it !!! If one want to use more secure system then i recommend MAC runs on PC hardware too and huge software support not so in Linux ! Various no compatible distros non compatible packages (dependency hell) on some is even impossible to install from binary that developer post as new software package missing app in software respositories that leads to more than one distro to use and with that twice as much troubles or even more ! Still no convinced go ahead and try for your self ! Lately some smack has posted Slitaz 4.0 without installer and then claimed hot to install it to hd ! People are going crazy these days or someone think that we normal people are stupid or what ! Once bad experience with Linux … one can think what follows !!! To efficiently use Linux one must be at least programmer/developer and that can be achieved only if one study it intensively ! And Linux is not standardized that means that one distro is to configure much different that other and that leads to serious stops down !!! Normal people like me and others common laic user in linux can not perform even basic os operation on some distros and as that it is useless as we do not have time to making master degree on it as we must work for living ! Seems to me that developer of linux do not understand that ! They have learned commnad prompt and they force command prompt ! Although today were possible to install software with few mouse cliks but lacking standarized installer this one is mission impossible ! I beet that i make PhD in FluidMehanic and HeatTransfer sooner as this would be possible in Linux !!!

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214 Morris May 14, 2012 at 4:31 am

I came here for the knowledge but stayed for the comments LOL. Thanks guys

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215 steve May 17, 2012 at 2:39 pm

Ok i will go deeply on it ! For all newbies in Linux and laic users that have plenty time to spare and nerves too ! Basic steps to be done in Linux in general and in very short term ! No need being offensive i have only pointed to weaknesses in Linux and what may stop you in using it !
1st what distro one may use – different packages for different distro to install – do the job and read manual of OS for basics – may be time intensive and then ask reasonable question
2nd procedure for install packaged are also distro dependable – sometimes developers even changes procedure call’s for installing packages on upgrade or even new release of same distro that makes things confusing for newbie which is trying out more than one different distro and want to install the same software on it
3rd for particular/similar distro’s one may have software respository compatible – packages – what that mean’s – it means that package.deb is mean to be installed on debian based linux distros. package.rpm for fedora red hat based linux distros and similar and so on. There are numerous linux distros. Theoretically any developed Linux distro can have its own software respository and package manager – Slitaz have package.tazpkg – if one desire to instal app that is not in its own respository or can not be found it must convert it from other existed packages or even from binary – package.deb or supported and so on – (dependency hell – google it) Debian has largest software respository well described, but even as such do not have the latest releases published software app due the all linux software releases are programmed from the source/binary and published on various web sites as binarry packages – package.bin that can not be so installed in various linux distros ! Not for newbie and not for common laic user ! The only distro i know that have support for installing such packages from binary is Sabayon Linux based on Gentoo Linux and uses packages named tarballs. If one desires to install some eksotic new software releases have little choices to choose from ! Some of distros have support for gui package managers like synaptic and some others but this is far from being useful for major distro releases – only successfully if implemented by developer in os – may work ! I have tried to install such gui package manager in SaxenOS but ended up in crippled system so i do not install it on distro that has none may ending up in disaster! That’s i mean not standarized installers ! It would be far more better to implement gui installer for binary packages this way no conversions needed and installing on all distros the same package just like in win are exe and msi executable ! But as Linux develops in various and different ways and no real standard this will newer happen ! The best way to use linux is to begin to use some easy distros Like Ubuntu and derivates. I have make may 1st experince with Mandrake today Mandrriva Linux and Slackware Linux but i’m no fan of over sized OS’ses so i use some tiny distros for being fast and only installed what i rely use ! I strongly suggest that one may install and test various Linux distros under VirtualBox so one can explore distro to see if it can manage from install configuration and customization for basic tasks that are needed to perform such as display resolution file manger – where is what stored and desired software packages to install before ruins the native installed system ! One must achieve basic practical use of OS – if stopped here, there will be nothing but troubles, drop downs and stops ! That i have mean with stopping user on every step ! There is no easy way to learn Linux due to it’s how its build and mean to use ! Sooner or later one must go to command line ! And there are so manz different distros with different catch’s and some are missing some features and one is not pointed to it ! So only realy experience is needed to se if particular distro suits one needs or not !

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216 justzilla June 3, 2012 at 1:07 pm

DUde this did not help at all.

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217 No June 6, 2012 at 5:25 am

Still don’t fucking understand. Fuck Linux.

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218 owen October 19, 2012 at 12:44 pm

two many distros no standard soft ware instalation need to spend lot of time learning how to install programe then find it wont work on diferent distro dont love windows but linux is a lot of frustration.

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219 cathode July 2, 2012 at 6:47 pm

I have been using xp, ubuntu, win7 and suse 12 for awhile now. I have had problems with all of them to one degree or another. It may be said that in general windows is easier to use out of the box. Xp just worked with little problem. Not everyone is that fortunate i know. Setting up win7 for home networking has been a problem. It still doesn’t work that well but i don’t need it that often so its not a big deal.Other wise win7 ran pretty much out of the box. I really only use the network occasionally. I also have fewer computers so the network thing is less of an issue.
Networking between computers is not that easy in linux if you want to use Samba,
I had it working at one time but crashed a computer and could not get the etc\config file edited to work again. i realize i have spent a bit of time with networking but it has been a hobby of mine for awhile now.
That said i was like a lot of people. Windows was introduced at work 15-20 years ago and Dos 6.22 and win 3.1 were all new. A lot of people had classes at work on how to use windows, No charge since the company paid for classes. We have to learn linux on our own if we want to know anything about it.
OK about linux distros.
I don’t like libre office that came with suse 12. is not as intuitive to me as was Open Office. More to the point i use the word processor and not much else. Truth is I’ve used ms word more so its just more familiar, hence “easier” . But i have used open office in ubuntu enough that i am kinda used to it so its ok for some things. I’d use ms word for resume’s and more labor intensive jobs cause i’m a big chicken and don’t want to loose my work by being unfamiliar with the program i’m using. i just got ms office 2010. tried to use ms word like always. Just open and paste what i need and save. Not so fast. They changed stuff and its not as simple. It may be no big thing but is different enough it took extra time just to save a simple word doc.
Even Open Office is not as intuitive as MS Word was. But intuitive can be a common sense thing or maybe just a habit that we have formed and are now less conscience of.
I am not a gamer so that much I can’t speak to. I don’t use Cad/cam or do high end graphics. Nor do i do any web site or software development. I mainly use a computer for communication, writing and research on various articles and topics about current events.
The main things i like about linux are that I’m not dependent on M.S.for a resolution to a problem. i am also less confined to what M.S. wants to give me and that it.
Case in point. I don’t like evolution e-mail. I prefer Thunderbird. So i removed evolution and installed Thunderbird. Took all of about 10 minuets. Longer to do the address books. But that’s with any of them.
This applies to Firefox only. Want to change the way it behaves?
Type about:config in the address bar and see all the changes you can make to the way Firefox operates. I don’t know if I.E. will let you do that or not. I.E. is proprietary so maybe not. Its just so much more open in what you can do with it, Windows is more “take what you get”. I should mention that linux is resistant to a LOT of viruses.
I have run a linux machine barefoot on the net for months with no problem. No antivirus. I do have an antivirus running now because an ounce of prevention is worth pounds of cure. But in the past i have never had a problem But my surfing is restricted to pretty much known safe sites, although i use a LOT of sites for research. I do get e-mails tho. I DO have firewalls. But Linux needs permissions for most everything by default anyway. I know what i want on my machines and any requests for a root user access are denied right away. i use linux for net surfing and e-mail for these reasons.
Its just a matter of spending enough time with a new os to get used to it.
I have hopes that i will be MS free in the future. It all depends on how willing i am to apply myself. Its either time or money.
i would suggest finding a LUG. Linux Users Group. Most larger cities have one or more. It does take some intestinal fortitude to walk in cold with out knowing anyone. But its worth it and i’ve found that most people will respond to an honest desire for knowledge. Thats been my experience.

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220 sanjay August 10, 2012 at 10:19 am

very good

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221 'Sup Bro September 17, 2012 at 7:15 pm

When I try to use ./configure, this happens:

checking for a BSD-compatible install… /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane… yes
checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p… /bin/mkdir -p
checking for gawk… gawk
checking whether make sets $(MAKE)… yes
checking whether make supports nested variables… yes
checking for style of include used by make… GNU
checking for gcc… no
checking for cc… no
checking for cl.exe… no
configure: error: in `/home/ted/Downloads/geany-1.22′:
configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
See `config.log’ for more details

What do?

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222 lkspüadf October 3, 2012 at 3:41 pm

Description didn’t help me at all. No references, no full command explanation.

Thanx 4 nothin’.

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223 Charlie Snow October 17, 2012 at 11:30 pm

I’ ve read most if not all these entries (post) by you all and it was very, very funny all of it specialy the harddrive that killed it self , I; was lol for so,so long, thank you all.
Now about Linux (I;m kinda new to it myself) and I hate to learn but I’ let them (yes them), let them make all the distros they want, what we (yes we) should do is… but wait (who are we), (we are not windows haters), but we will/ don’t know how, but we will embrace linux, mainly cuz ubuntu with unity (yes with unity) is easy to use, Mint (hate the gray color) is even more like windows and what about Zorin. OK pick a fav, i recomend mint with mate, i choose ubuntu with the dvd codecs but for newbies mint is best zorin not as good as mint, only use the sudo apt-get install on terminal and the software center for most of your software and also keep windows so you have to use when linux gets boring but never let it go, you must force yourself to use it just don’t try finding the best one. I’ m telling you its mint maya with mate never, never use KDE it;s only for very diehard linux users and thats ok 2 but we non windows hateders must stick to gnome and such. I’ can bearly spell my native language must less english, so sorry for the spelling. I hate tarballs but as luck would have it I don’t think I need it; what we really need a way to put all our linux software in one cd so we can install and reinstall without keys, we all know thats what we deslike about MS and paying and paying and paying, so linux its for me and just keep one or two distros cuz I’ play with everything. What I’ play in windows now I’ play with it on linux I play with music and videos and writing and photos all in linux, plus many things I do on the web itself so I’ know that I’ don’ need windows to get on the net right… so there my two cents…

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224 Pankaj October 18, 2012 at 11:12 am

After #make install
Nothing is happening :(

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225 Patrick Burwell October 26, 2012 at 5:32 pm

When i run make or make install as root I get this;

make: *** No rule to make target `install’. Stop.

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226 lekshmi December 5, 2012 at 9:43 am

Hai,

I tried to install R- software package using the commands mentioned.But after configuring it’s mentioned some libraries are not found .So Is there any way to install without reinstalling the linux os as such?

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227 Dom December 18, 2012 at 4:06 am

hey guys, i cant find out how to make the pound sign (#) into the money sign ($) someone please help, lol

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228 James January 2, 2013 at 1:05 pm

What a joke the Linux program install is if you are not a Alien-language speaking geek with no life to live other than in Linux-World. I have been using Linux 3 years and still do not get ‘basic’ instructions such as …. (and I quote)…

INSTALLATION FROM A SOURCE-CODE TARBALL

o If what I downloaded from the net is a Linux source code in the form of a compressed tarball (*.tar.gz or *.tgz), the installation procedure is longer and more troublesome than with the binary-only rpm. I typically install the program as root.
First, I change my current working directory to /usr/local :

cd /usr/local

Second, I decompress the tarball that I downloaded from the net:

tar -xvzf /home/the_dir_where_the_tarball_is/my_tarball.tar.gz

This extracts (option “x”) the contents of the *.tar.gz (or *.tgz) tarball, unzips it (option “z”), while talking to me more than usual (option “v” = verbose). Please note that the option “f” means “file”, so the filename must immediately follow the letter “f”. The contents of the tarball are extracted into a subdirectory which tar creates under my current working directory, which in the typical case is /usr/local/ . The tarball knows what the new subdirectory should be called.

If the tarball is not compressed (e.g., *.tar), I may use:

tar -xvf /home/the_dir_where_the_tarball_is/my_tarball.tar

Third, I have to figure how the new directory is called, then I cd into it:

dir
cd the_new_program_subdir

Since some of the directories have long names, I use the great autocompletion option to save on typing–I just type the first few letters and then press .

Fourth, most programs are compiled by executing these three commands:

./configure
make
make install

The above commands can take some time to complete (1 min? 0.5 h?). If any of them fail, it might be an idea to read the README or INSTALL or whatever info is provided with the new program. Some programs may require customization of the environment (e.g. definition of their path) or installation of an additional library, or yet something else. It can sometimes be a pain. Very simple programs might not need the “./configure” or/and “make install” step, in which case “make” alone will do.

Fifth, if everything goes well, I find the new executable which I just compiled. The names of executables display in green when running this command:

ls –color

Now, I can run the executable, for example:

./the_executable

Some programs automatically install the executable to /usr/local/bin, so I may want to try:

/usr/local/bin/the_executable

Sixth, if I plan to run the program more often, I create a symbolic link to the executable from the directory /usr/local/bin :
cd /usr/local/bin
ln -s /usr/local/the_new_program_subdir/the_executable .

This way, the executable (actually, a symbolic link to it) is on my PATH and it can be run by simply typing its name (no need to type the full path to the executable any more). Some programs will install the executable (or a link to it) in a “bin” directory in which case you skip the last step.

What a joke. (only an entire page of unclear instructions just to insatll an app!!!!) If I had no life then I could give it to Linux, but unfortunately that is NOT the case.

What do I do? Well simply I do not use the program. I use only the programmes that I find with ‘sudo apt-get install’

The Linux people SERIOUSLY need to sort their SH*%t out if they don’t wish to be left dead in the water.

Thanks Linux for -ONCE AGAIN- totally ruining my day, and pissing me off!!!

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229 Darryl February 25, 2013 at 3:36 am

I had a lot of trouble when I ditched AppleDOS for PCDOS back in ’86. The syntax used by the different operating system just blew my mind. I’m having the same problem now as I wish to ditch Windows XP for Linux Puppy. Learning the syntax should be fairly easy once I come understand the basics.

Would somebody please give an example using variables, no big deal, of how to change directories. I would normally just type cd c:\path with Windows. What syntax do I use with Linux?

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230 saif April 15, 2013 at 7:36 am

Can’t see the intalled software..

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231 Saerio May 4, 2013 at 10:32 am

Linux People
Stop making more new distros and make the shit that is out there work !!!

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232 Steve June 6, 2013 at 9:00 am

First of all standirize the app GUIvinstaller for all Linuxes and use mouse ! What for we do have mouse then ? To show of cmd or what ? Second im very pissed of about Linux Bootloader. Who in the hell have told to the developers that every user has to tamper bootloader ? This should work flawlesly as win bootloader (the onlz thing that work under win as it should work) ! User is stopped at weary beginning ! Linux is still far from being user friendly. And there is there linux packages ! Someone should setup Linux packages transformation app server for all there packages formats. Regardless of what distro one may use all app are available ! Reality – Linux is strong purpose OS as that it was developed and not for majority of masses ! Until ease of use as we know from win is not assured until Linux will not take over ! I will rather switch to OSX as using Win8 and running win app under diferent OS ! I will use Linux only if i can run all portable win app under it, or even better i will run win under hypervisor on my new shiny performance hardware !!!

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233 Ted July 22, 2013 at 9:18 pm

Extracted a tarball, cd to directory into which it was extracted, type ./configure into terminal as super user, I get “no such file or directory.”

Count me among those who would like to leave Windows behind for good, but tire of being told, type “A” and you’ll see “B” only to type “A” and see nothing of the sort.

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234 linux zZzz September 29, 2013 at 5:37 am

Linux had been around for several years that you would think these smart people created an auto extract and auto install.

Why can’t you smartest and brightest people just create a .exe file same as windows has?

ZzzzZZ

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235 Anna November 16, 2013 at 9:51 am

I would like to get a partition program so I can try Linux can anyone
recommend the best one and it must be user friendly
Anna

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236 unker cecil February 11, 2014 at 4:09 pm

…keep at it “Trent”, you’ll get better! We all start from the beginning and Unix-Linux is certainly worth staying with. Anything Microsoft is pure GARBAGE so keep on with Unix-Linux. I’ve been with it for 26 years and I’m still having difficulty with it. That’s the joy of Unix-Linux, (there’s more to learn).

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237 unker cecil February 12, 2014 at 10:36 am

to KIXO, after you do one of the following in a shell (without the “$” sign) and (a shell is also called a terminal window);
$ tar zxf file.tar.gz
$ tar zxf file.tgz
$ tar jxf file.tar.bz2
$ tar jxf file.tbz2
you type “ls” (without the quotation marks) and then click the ‘Enter’ key on your keyboard, then, you should see a newly created folder that will probably have a name that is similar to the name of the tar file that you just previously uncompressed with one of the four commands listed above, then, look in THAT newly created folder to see if there is a file named “comfigure” (without the quotation marks). If there is not a file in there named “configure” (without the quotation marks), it’s because some packages install a different way than using ./configure >> make>> make install. For example, I use a Debian-Knoppix operating system and I previously uncompressed a .tar.gz file named LibreOffice_4.2.0_Linux_x86_deb.tar.gz and when I looked into the newly created folder, there was NO file named ‘configure’ in there, but there WAS a FOLDER in there named ‘DEBS’ and when I looked in that folder named ‘DEBS’,
I noticed that it contained about 51 files, and all of those 51 files had different names that ended with the extention of .deb so I STAY in the ‘DEBS’ folder and type:
“sudo dpkg -i *.deb” (without the quotation marks) and all 51 of those .deb files install successfully WITHOUT me having to type in each individual name of each individual file of all of those 51 files (wow, that wildcard symbol “*” [without the quotation marks] sure is helpful in this situation!!) So, now, I STAY in the ‘DEBS’ folder and type:
libreoffice (all lower case letters) and then click the “Enter” key on my keyboard and the LibreOffice program begins to open, and so I can use LibreOffice without having to previously type: ./configure >> make >> make install (because the “configure” file and the “make” file and the “make install” file were NOT included in the installation files whatsoever when I originally looked in the newly created folder after I uncompressed the LibreOffice file that had a .tar.gz extention! This is just an example that shows that all files ending in .tar.gz may or may not include the ‘configure’ and the ‘make’ and the ‘make install’ files in the newly created folder that will appear after uncompressing a .tar.gz file. But if you research further into the newly created folder, you WILL discover how to install the .tar.gz file without using >> configure >> make >> make install.
…..I had previously learned how to install only individual files that have the extention of .deb; for example, if I wanted to install a file named “flashplugin-nonfree_3.4_i386.deb” then I would go into the folder where this particular file is located (I may have had to download this file previously and save it in a folder) and type: sudo dpkg -i flashplugin-nonfree_3.4_i386.deb and then click the “Enter” key on my keyboard and the file would get installed but sometimes .deb files require other .deb files to be installed previously; the installer calls these OTHER .deb files “Dependency Files” and if this happens after I type: sudo dpkg -i flashplugin-nonfree_3.4_i386.deb and then click the “Enter” key on my keyboard, the installer will complain and print on the screen the names of the dependency files that I need to install before I can install the file named ‘flashplugin-nonfree_3.4_i386.deb’ so I proceed to install those .deb files that the installer is complaining about.
Stay with Unix-Linux, it’s very much worth the effort.
See: http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
Sincerely,
Uncle Cecil

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238 Unker Cecil February 13, 2014 at 2:17 pm

to Bruce Wayne, concerning his March 21, 2009 reply to “Jannik” at 6:00 am.
Hi Bruce! I appreciate your reply. May I help with a small amount of punctuation editing without adding ANY of my words whatsoever to your complete reply; I loved everything that you said!!! Punctuation editing can make it easier for English readers to comprehend and “everyone” certainly needs to know exactly what you have to say! With all due respect, Bruce, I have only good intentions here. May I proceed:
“I don’t mean to sound like an asshole but the fact is that linux doesn’t want users like you. Linux is for those who want a smooth running operating system and for those that have the knowledge to tear the OS down and rebuild it the way they want it; obviously you do not possess this knowledge.
As for Windows “rocking”, it just doesn’t! I mean, the viruses written for windows have much more potential to destroy your entire system than those written for Linux (in fact it would be a .000000001% chance that somebody could destroy one linux computer with one worm while the “slammer” worm destroyed thousands of windows computers in relatively no time–and with relative ease. I don’t assume you will understand this but for everyone else out there, it is good to know!
Windows is “purposely” designed “incorrectly” for the functions it promises to its users of today. Windows is monolithic and entirely over interdependent, thus, if one program is hacked and destroyed, all programs fail; whereas, in Linux, if one program is hit with a virus, that one program is done and you reinstall. Many hacks are executed using web servers, but since Linux makes the web server its own user, someone who hacks a linux computer through a security hole in a web browser can only make the web browser fail and can’t gain any real control of the computer.
Windows also depends on RPC (remote procedure call) in unnecessary situations! RPC allows your computer to access other computers over the internet, looking for answers, but if there is one small hole in a server security network, it’s “Bam” time, and a worm can get thousands of comps because of the constant unneccesary use of RPC. Linux is designed to use RPC only as a last result because its direct access prevents other outside parties access to your comp. Seems logical, right? You don’t want other people accessing your files frequently–thats not very secure. Hence, the superior Linux design.
Linux also seperates all users and their dedicated files so that if one user gets a virus (which is still unlikely and very uncommon) and all of that users files get corrupted, the other user’s files remain intact–as if nothing had happened–so, thus, the computer is still intact and recovery is much easier!
Linux also has much better security programs available that make it much harder to crack. Plus, the added bonus of being able to change your OS with a few minor programming commands (and lessons), you make your OS completely unique. Now, which one is harder for a lock picker, to unlock the lock that 90% of the world uses or to unlock the lock that only 1 person in a 6 billion person world uses? It’s logic really. Windows is so popular, why would Microsoft care to fix these issues when their product already sells so well and is SO defective!? Thus, the free product (Linux) used by those who want a “supreme” OS is always being changed and upgraded in major ways and fixed. However, as I said at the beginning, Linux doesn’t want you! Linux is not an OS that is sold to make large profits for large Corporations. Linux is something you CHOOSE to have, and if you don’t want it–and all you want to do is say that it sucks, the Linux user community will not miss you–don’t let the door hit your ass on the way out. And, as always, it is OK to NOT like Linux–just use Windows or use Mac or use what suits your needs, but I prefer the security and the wide range of choice I have with Linux, plus, the ability to power-use! You may not, and that is fine. Please read the links I posted above, they are informative and will help newbies learn the ropes and help those considering Linux to decide if it is for them and which distro is for them.

Yours Truly,
The Caped Crusader(definitely in know way is this a comic book reference or nerdy remark lol)

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239 Unker Cecil February 14, 2014 at 11:40 am

to Ted….some tar files do not have the “configure” nor the “make” nor the “make install” files included after being uncompressed but don’t despair!!! There IS a way to install these files that have no configure or make or make install files! When you look further into the newly created folder that was created when you uncompressed a file with:
‘tar zxf file.tar.gz’ or the ‘tar zxf file.tgz’ or the ‘tar jxf file.tar.bz2′ or the ‘tar jxf file.tbz2′
you will discover that there IS a way to install these files and if you would please tell us the name of the file that you are trying to install, we can help you install it, guaranteed, we can help you install it! It’s frustrating at first, sometimes, when a person is starting to learn about Unix-Linux, but after you use it for awhile, you will discover that the so called frustration of using Linux will turn into a learing experience and actually be fun instead of frustrating! Please see: http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm

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240 sam April 16, 2014 at 12:48 am

New to linux Can anyone please tell me the latest version of mandriva I can not find a disk after 2011 help would be much apreciated .
regards Sam

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241 Collin May 15, 2014 at 12:22 pm

Linux is people by a bunch of smart asses who believe that they are so cleaver that they can not stop
looking in the mirror and telling themselves how cleaver they are and they can not stoop to help us dumbos.

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